Why Great Clients Leave—and How to Design a Business They Can Grow With
What if your best clients aren’t leaving because your coaching failed—but because your business quietly tells them their journey with you is over?
In this episode, Jill welcomes Dagmar Khan, creator of the Clients for Life methodology, to explore the hidden design flaw that keeps transformational businesses trapped in a revolving cycle of constantly finding new clients.
Dagmar shares how to create an intentional client journey that gives people meaningful ways to continue learning, evolving, and contributing long after their first program ends. Together, Jill and Dagmar discuss why extraordinary transformation deserves an extraordinary client experience—and how long-term client relationships can deepen both your impact and your income.
You’ll discover:
- The simple sign that your offers may be designed for clients to leave
- Why a program’s end date shouldn’t mean the relationship has to end
- How to create a clear next chapter for your clients
- Why small initial wins can lead to greater transformation and lifetime client value
- How community, co-creation, and collaboration encourage clients to stay
- Why serving existing clients more deeply can be more sustainable than constantly reacquiring new ones
If you love your clients and want to continue walking alongside them as they grow, this conversation will help you rethink what becomes possible after the initial transformation.
Connect with Dagmar on Substack:
https://clientsforlife.substack.com
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https://embodiedgrowth.co/design-session
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Transcript
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Clients don't leave because your coaching wasn't good enough. They leave because your business quietly tells them the journey is over. Today's conversation uncovers the hidden design flaw that causes transformational businesses to lose extraordinary clients, and once you see it, you'll never look at client retention the same way again.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the You World Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life health transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs who are stepping up to be the change they want to see in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, The Coach's Alchemist, on a mission to empower coaches and entrepreneurs to amplify their voice.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Monetize their mission and get visible. If you're ready to start attracting premium clients without chasing algorithms or hunting people down like a banshee on a mission, head on over to Coachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit. It's the first step to building a business where your clients seek you out rather than you having to hunt them down.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Today, we are chatting with Dagmar Khan. Dagmar is the creator of Clients for Life Mythology, helping visionary founders design their businesses so exceptional client experiences naturally lead to stronger relationships, higher renewals.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And clients who continue growing with them for years, not just through a single program, but across a lifetime of meaningful work. Welcome to the show, Dagmar. It's really great to have you with us today.
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::Dagmar Khan: Jill, it's so wonderful to be here, I'm so excited for this conversation.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, well, I'm going to ask you the big question. Are you ready?
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::Dagmar Khan: I am ready, bring it my way.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, what's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going?
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::Dagmar Khan: May I be a little biased?
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::Dagmar Khan: The bias is creating a triple wins. So, as our amazing audience are people who truly care about the impact of their work in the world, and in that, transforming people's lives in health, in marriages, in business, in spirituality.
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::Dagmar Khan: It is truly to foster relationship with our clients, where the transformational work that we do and that we bring to the world can truly stick with our clients, and in that
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::Dagmar Khan: A context we can truly impact and transform the presence and future of our human family.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that, I love that. And the whole everybody can win thing, I coined a term a while ago now, it's called coopetition.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's where we cooperate with others, and we honor their…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: contributions, because I believe everybody comes here to bring something and to share it with the world. They have a gift, and it's here to help all of humanity move forward. And we should honor that, and not try to compete with them for what they're gifted at.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But we should compete with ourselves.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To be the best we can be, and to bring the best we can to the world, in the space that we're here designed to be sharing about.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So… That's…
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::Dagmar Khan: Absolutely, absolutely. And in that, like, create a platform for everyone involved.
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::Dagmar Khan: to truly bring their greatest gifts, skills, and contributions onto our Earth.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: tests.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So you believe extraordinary transformation deserves an extraordinary client experience. What does that actually mean, and where do most business owners get it wrong?
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::Dagmar Khan: Wonderful question, and I feel like, Jill, this is sort of, like, bringing me to the start of this journey of being really…
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::Dagmar Khan: fascinated with client experience, and that actually takes me to kind of a 2017-2018, when I have been
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::Dagmar Khan: developed my own body of work. I was very blessed to train healers and practitioners from all walks of life in the issues of female pelvic floor, so if…
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::Dagmar Khan: anyone that's listening has ever had the embarrassing issues of, like, what's happening down there. My healers and my practitioners became just phenomenal experts at solving some of the most embarrassing problems of their clients on our Earth.
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::Dagmar Khan: And I remember in 2020, I am sitting down, it was, late December, I'm sitting down with a group of my beloved clients.
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::Dagmar Khan: And it is the graduation call. And the call had such a powerful energy. Everybody is celebrating and sharing and really bringing forward their 12-month journey of growth and contribution on our Earth.
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::Dagmar Khan: And I am there as the mentor and the facilitator.
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::Dagmar Khan: And I feel this dread and sweat.
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::Dagmar Khan: Just, like, overtaking my entire body. Do you know why?
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::Dagmar Khan: Because…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Say goodbye.
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::Dagmar Khan: Because I had to say goodbye. I have invested so much into my people over 12 months.
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::Dagmar Khan: And there they are, celebrating themselves, celebrating each other, high-fiving each other, and I am watching the entire cohort of my beloved humans walk out of that Zoom room.
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::Dagmar Khan: And out of my life.
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::Dagmar Khan: And later on at night, as I am stressing over how I'm going to fill the next cohort and make sure that my business continues to grow.
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::Dagmar Khan: I have really entered the dark night of the soul.
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::Dagmar Khan: And the Dark Night of the Soul was organized around one core question, which is, what does it take
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::Dagmar Khan: For our beloved clients.
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::Dagmar Khan: Into whom we have invested so much, with whom we have developed incredibly meaningful and deep relationships. What does it look like for them to actually stay in our programs, in our offers, in our services?
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::Dagmar Khan: So that we don't have this, like, revolving door problem. Clients come in, clients go, clients come in, clients go. But we have people who, after ultimately the initial point of purchase, the initial point of transaction.
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::Dagmar Khan: They have really the greatest chance to grow with us, stay with us.
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::Dagmar Khan: And evolve with us.
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::Dagmar Khan: And through that question, and through this.
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::Dagmar Khan: really, not only one dark night of the Soul, but 6 plus months of Dark Nights of the Soul. I have retrained and upskilled. I have really been back to basics as it relates to timeless business principles.
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::Dagmar Khan: And I have created a Clients for Life method, which ultimately solves the point of…
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::Dagmar Khan: Clients come in, clients go, revolving door problems.
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::Dagmar Khan: And foster, especially for transformational businesses, especially for spiritual businesses, the client journey that allows people to stay with us. And in that context, truly, our both income and impact has the greatest chance to be amplified.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I… I love that, and it's… It's so needed
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think most coaches come into coaching because they want to effect a transformation for their clients.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Half the time.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they don't actually have a client journey for their clients. They just know that they want to help as many people as they can.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it sounds like you're… you're taking them from…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Helping them to see the… the potential for what they have to offer.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To developing a tribe?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: into… leading that tribe, and… I… I mention leadership more in the… in the realm of.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Walking alongside of, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the Native Americans used to have elders, and they had chiefs. Chiefs were for going into battle.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Elders were actually the ones that moved the community along.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that.
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::Dagmar Khan: analogy, yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so it feels to me like what you're talking about is this sort of,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: structure, and teaching people, coaches, and spiritual entrepreneurs who really do have something that they're here to share, and transformations they're here to deliver, to be really effective about it, and still
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: not… not have to end. The… the ending is like… you almost brought me to tears when you're like, what was that thing I was feeling? I know what that thing is you were feeling.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Feel it, too.
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::Dagmar Khan: Yeah, yeah, a really powerful analogy, and yeah, whether that's, like, an embodiment of elder or embodiment of trusted guide, which is who we become in that context, but subsequently building around this a community and tribe where
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::Dagmar Khan: Really, people and our clients have a greater chance to become all of themselves.
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::Dagmar Khan: Unlike they will be able to become in the context, the one-on-one coaching, because the community and tribe fosters so much growth and amplification. The beautiful opportunity
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::Dagmar Khan: For every single one of us is really knowing that all of us are deeply tribal.
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::Dagmar Khan: And in this context of our human family, when so many structures and systems are falling apart in front of our eyes, the tribe and the community that you not only create initially.
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::Dagmar Khan: But then you keep co-creating with your beloved people. Is the place of home?
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::Dagmar Khan: And foundation, and essence in which every single one of your clients is poised to
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::Dagmar Khan: be with you and stay with you, not just for the duration of Signature Program or 12 months mastermind.
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::Dagmar Khan: Truly for years and years to come.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's kind of like families, as well. Your children come into your world, and you have to teach them the basics, and then you teach them…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: More advanced skills and strategies for dealing with things, and then it just moves into… you're… you're watching them, and you're their best cheerleader, and then they launch.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But it doesn't mean that the door's closed, you're never coming back.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It means you have…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: events that you attend, and celebrations that you have, and… and you're interested and excited in what they're developing in their little sphere. It's like a little incubation. Homes are a little incubation space to… to create
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because it echoes out, it ripples out. And if you have a space where your clients can still come back to, and they contribute in the space itself.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: which enriches the space immensely as it matures, but also, they have… they're modeling it out there with their own clients, and it's just, like, keeps going out. I love this.
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::Dagmar Khan: That's so beautifully said, and Lily, what you describe actually takes me to the first pillar of Clients for Life, which is curriculum.
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::Dagmar Khan: but really curriculum that basically keeps developing with the client. And you have really named almost, like, the stages here, which is so cool, Jill. So, really, the essential structure of curriculum that holds clients for life is the foundation. What are the skills, what are the core capacities that clients need to acquire, whether that's
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::Dagmar Khan: Visibility on camera, whether that's deepening intimacy with their lifelong partner, or
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::Dagmar Khan: patenting in a conscious way. I love the possibility of patenting.
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::Dagmar Khan: And…
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::Dagmar Khan: From there is really this, like, the next level is the growth with the skills and capacities that gets to be done, and, of course, there are a lot of
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::Dagmar Khan: Setbacks and challenges and questions and bottlenecks, or the dark periods of clients' life.
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::Dagmar Khan: And eventually, as we sort of, like, see them, kind of come into the young adult in that context, it's more or less we are walking with them through the journey of life as the elderly or as the trusted guide.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that. And you're never… you're never happy to say goodbye.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's… My favorite part of this whole thing?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I… I spent a lot of my early childhood, moving.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My dad was in the military, and so every two years, we would move, and I… start over.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you said goodbye to a bunch of people that you probably were never gonna have
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: contact with again. Then the internet happened a million years later, and I was like, oh, people that I knew when I was in elementary school on the other side of the world.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have contact with again.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But it's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's because of communities that were developed that allowed for these connections to be renewed, but if you just start out in a program where you're,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you're building all the foundations, and you're putting it all together instead of trying to piecemeal it later on. I think it's much stronger.
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::Dagmar Khan: Unquestionably. And, you know, the secret sauce, that the greatest programs get to be created
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::Dagmar Khan: By actually asking our clients, what is it that they want, and what is it they need.
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::Dagmar Khan: And that takes us to almost like a… you can think about it, energetic principle of Clients for Life, which is…
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::Dagmar Khan: We hold onto our clients in a win-win way.
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::Dagmar Khan: By being in a relationship of co-creation and collaboration.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You created the Clients for Life mythology. Can you walk us through the biggest shift founders experience when they redesign their business around long-term client continuity instead of constant reacquisition?
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::Dagmar Khan: more money, and greater impact is as simple. And, you know.
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::Dagmar Khan: It's a really interesting time in our coaching landscape space to look at, like.
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::Dagmar Khan: All the things and all the structures and all the focuses that lead to getting more clients, like
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::Dagmar Khan: funnels, ads, launches, messaging, visibility, all the moving pieces that ultimately turn someone from, hey, I found you online, to, you know what, you're cool, and I need what you got, and let me step into your program.
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::Dagmar Khan: So, all the moving pieces and all the moving structures that basically get us to acquire clients, to…
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::Dagmar Khan: Stepping into a place where, first and foremost, as the leaders.
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::Dagmar Khan: We, number one, feel really worthy and deserving.
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::Dagmar Khan: Of holding and maintaining and co-creating that relationship between ourselves and a client for years and years to come.
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::Dagmar Khan: Number two, we have the structures, and when I say structures, I'm really talking about the client journey. So the curriculum and the series of offers, or offers designed in a way
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::Dagmar Khan: actually allow client to stay with us for years and years to come. And number three, what I love most about it
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::Dagmar Khan: And this is the piece we have already a little bit looked at, is…
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::Dagmar Khan: As our clients move from, like, almost this underdeveloped, you know, childlike identity in the context of learning and growth that's required for them.
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::Dagmar Khan: To a place where we see them soaring in, like, massive, massive heights when it comes to their impact and their capacity to bring their greatest gifts into the world.
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::Dagmar Khan: I don't know about you, Jill, but to me, this is the most rewarding
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::Dagmar Khan: emotionally and soulfully rewarding experience of everything I do. The reward of seeing my client soar. So for the founder who's listening, the reward of you seeing your clients, like, being someone
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::Dagmar Khan: being all of themselves in the magnificence of our lives on this earth at this time.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I love that. And it's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You talked a little bit in the beginning about the client journey, I f… Find, often.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When you go to all the effort to acquire a client, and it's expensive, you're either going to invest time, or money, or both.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But… To… to find people that are interested in what you have to offer. And then…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Then the tendency has been to just blow them away with
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: All of the stuff that you can give them in one drop.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, we care about people that are creating these big, intensive coaching programs, and while those were kind of in vogue in, like, 2019, 2020, in that era.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and… and people really did need, like, the big influx of information. Now I think people need bite-sized
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Chunks that they can… they can go, and they can just get what they want when they need it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And if you set your client journey up in a way that it's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Allows for people to enter in at different places.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But not have to, like, okay, you chose the apples and… and not the oranges, and the oranges came before the apples, and so now you can't do the oranges.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you have it laid out in a way that people can pick what they need to consume, to acquire the information they need to progress them.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in the direction that they're choosing to go, laid out so that they know what… what the options are. And, like, I talk about having draw the line.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: put where your clients are in the beginning, and where you're going to deliver them to on the other end, and then all the dots are all the things that you offer them to move them from where they are to where they need to be. But they don't have to buy the whole thing at one time, and it used to be that's how you created courses.
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::Dagmar Khan: I love what you're saying, and, you know, the greatest marketing… one of the greatest marketing assets of our lives is, like, give our clients what they want instead of what they need, and I think this is where
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::Dagmar Khan: many incredible changemakers really miss the point in terms of what does the client experience actually need to look like. With that being said, I want to highlight one piece, because
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::Dagmar Khan: there is a time for things like intensive programs, bootcamps, and VIPs, and a massive value of that, Jill, is you're helping someone compress
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::Dagmar Khan: time, massively compressed time, to get the result, to achieve their goals, to go where they want to go. So, for example, if, you know, someone is, like, a marriage coach, and they
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::Dagmar Khan: Their ideal clients are having arguments every single day with their spouse.
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::Dagmar Khan: guess what? They don't want to go through 12 months mastermind so that 12 months later, hopefully, they will be able to resolve conflicts at home. Like, they want a super sexy offer, or super sexy.
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::Dagmar Khan: possibility for a client is, you know what, I'm gonna take you through a VIP experience, and like, that's it. That's the end of arguments in your marriage for the rest of your life. Like, amen and hallelujah.
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::Dagmar Khan: With that being said, on the other side, very much to what you're speaking to.
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::Dagmar Khan: with everything that's happening in the world, most of our clients are overwhelmed, spread thin, over-consumed, and they are really looking at, okay, what is the piece that I need right now in alignment with the projects, aspirations, and ambitions that I'm working on?
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::Dagmar Khan: And who is that person that will actually provide that for me, going back to the tribe, in the tribe and collective, where I can really
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::Dagmar Khan: bounce ideas, see other people doing similar work, you know, share insights, ask questions, so that I am in that context of my marriage, my health, my business. I'm really moving forward on the trajectory
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::Dagmar Khan: Even as maybe I have small children, or I'm caring for elderly parents, and there's only so much time available for me to really focus on this area of my life.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and being able to give them
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: small wins in order to introduce the larger win. Sometimes people need something that they can test.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: call them lead magnets, or you can call them samples.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Or you can call them appetizers. You know, you pay for an appetizer.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You don't pay for a sample.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The sample is very small, and it just, like, It's a tease.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The appetizer is to whet your appetite for something larger coming. It's to excite you about the possibilities.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then introducing the larger… the larger piece. And you can have little tools in there that also can help
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Move the client along to the
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to the destination they're trying to get out, but in your explanation of, you know, the couple that's fighting all the time, if you gave them a tool for
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For resolving conflict before it starts, like, the 7 reasons
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Fights normally start in a household.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There are… there are probably more than that, but just as an example. And if you… if you just make people aware, these are the times when arguments are most likely to start.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It gives them information that they need, they can imply right now, and yet, it leads into…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, if this helped you, wouldn't it be great to have
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: a program where you could bring your personal situation in, and we could look at it, and we could help you, sort that out so it's more personalized. So you go from broadly, this is… this is what happens normally, to
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: this is what happens for you personally. What happens broadly is… You know, a $27 product.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What happens personally is a much more…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: expensive solution, and I've heard it said, you can't solve a $10,000 problem with a $7 product.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And in terms of relationships and marriages especially, divorce is expensive. It's way more than $10,000, usually.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For people that are trying to… trying to live with other people and protect their assets and their family, and… you know, it's… it's a big deal to figure out
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How to live with somebody else.
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::Dagmar Khan: This is an incredible example, Jill, and it makes me think…
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::Dagmar Khan: Small initial client wins lead to big exponential results. Results for your clients, results for your revenue, and results for your impact in the world.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it… we were just talking about relationships, but it works in money, it works in…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What are the big three? Health? Oh, health.
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::Dagmar Khan: Health, Relationships, and business.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Those three.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: At the beginning, we talked about the hidden design flaw that quietly tells clients their journey is over. If someone listening wants to discover whether that flaw exists in their own business, what are the first signs they should look for, and where can they learn more?
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::Dagmar Khan: Powerful question, and the very simplest thing to assess, are my programs and my offers designed for clients to leave, is that you have a program with a start date and end date.
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::Dagmar Khan: So if your program has a start date and end date, and at the end of end date, you have nothing to invite your current clients into, that is, like, really meaningful next step, or meaningful path to their next level of growth, you have ultimately self-sabotage.
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::Dagmar Khan: your own business success and your capacity to serve your clients on a deeper level. You know, it's, I had a conversation with, a friend of mine quite recently who has herself invested a lot of money into coaching and growth and transformation.
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::Dagmar Khan: And she shared this actually from a client perspective. And what she said… what she shared with me, Jill, kind of blew my own mind.
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::Dagmar Khan: Because she said, When I fall in love with my coach.
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::Dagmar Khan: And I really trust them. I grew with them. I have healed with them. I became vulnerable with them. When they tell me, this is the end of program, and I can't continue with them.
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::Dagmar Khan: It actually breaks my own heart.
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::Dagmar Khan: Because I love them so much, number one, and number two, this brings me back to the square one to go out there and start hunting and chasing and trying to find
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::Dagmar Khan: the right next mentor with whom I align.
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::Dagmar Khan: So, I am here to say, make it easier for your clients, so you're not breaking your client's own hearts.
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::Dagmar Khan: And design a client journey in a way that, whether it's a workshop, whether it's a freebie, whether it's a $27 product, whether it's a mastermind or signature program, you have the next phase and next chapter for your clients to grow and evolve with you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that so much.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And how can, people work with you? I… I know you have a…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Does Clients for Life design session that you offer, and how can they find that, and what does that look like?
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::Dagmar Khan: Beautiful question. So, number one, if you're on Substack, I love and I believe in Substack, same as you, Jill, and you're listening to this, you're watching, just connect with me on Substack through Dagmar Khan, send me a message, let me know what's landing, what's resonating, what are you chewing on from this conversation, number one.
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::Dagmar Khan: Number two, I offer what's called Clients for Life design sessions. So, if you are resonating with anything that we have been looking at today, or you're like.
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::Dagmar Khan: You know what, Dagmar? I really have that signature program that has started and end date. I love my people, my people love me, but I do not have the next chapter designed for my folks. I would love to have a sit-down with you.
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::Dagmar Khan: Number one, this session is an hour just you and I, looking at exactly how you are working with clients, how you are helping them transform, and what does your current client journey looks like. Number two.
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::Dagmar Khan: In the session itself, I am going to help you create your own personalized client journey that is designed to 10x lifetime client value of every single customer that ever steps into any single one of your program. And number three, Jill, the best part?
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::Dagmar Khan: This session is 100% free, so it's you and I for an hour on Zoom, and you're walking away with your personalized client journey designed to 10x lifetime client value of every single one of your customers, and I'm sure we're going to include the link into the show notes, and you can easily go to
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::Dagmar Khan: embodiedgrowth.co, forward slash design hyphen session. That's embodiedgrowth.co forward slash design hyphen session.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you so much for joining us today, Dagmar. This has been amazing.
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::Dagmar Khan: Jill, it's been an absolute honor, and if I may share, like, one last line, I truly believe that
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::Dagmar Khan: Doubling down on our clients who already raised their hand, paid us, trusting us, loving us, growing with us. Doubling down on, ultimately, being the trusted guide.
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::Dagmar Khan: And being the elder in their lives, while building a beautiful community of growth and co-creation and collaboration.
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::Dagmar Khan: is the way in which our coaching business becomes the structure and the secret sauce for bringing New Earth onto this planet.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Not agree with you more.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, so much wisdom.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can learn more about Dagmar and find her free.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: clients for Life… design session. Sorry, I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Lost my… my train of thought there. Her Free Client for Life design session, which is a hugely…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Beautiful experience for her to offer to you for free.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: embodiedgrowth.co forward slash design dash session, and please consider subscribing to her Substack publication, clientsforlife.substack.com, and we'll be sure to put those links in the description below. Thank you for tuning in with us today. If you're ready to amplify your voice, monetize your mission, and get
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and start attracting premium clients, your next step is simple. Head to thecoachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit. Join us for our next episode as we share what others are doing to raise the global frequency. And remember, change begins with you. You have all the power to change the world. Start today and get visible.
