Decode Your Body’s Signals: Nervous System Regulation & Midlife Vitality with Heather Hansen
When your body starts whispering — or screaming — that something’s off, it’s not betraying you. It’s communicating.
In this episode of the You World Order Showcase Podcast, I’m joined by Heather Hansen, an award-winning international speaker, best-selling author, and coach who helps women over 40 reimagine aging and reclaim their vitality. We talk about how stress, emotion, and “stuffing it down” can show up as real symptoms in the body — and how to start listening differently, regulating your nervous system, and coming back home to yourself.
We cover:
✨ Why midlife can be a breakthrough, not a breakdown
✨ How emotions can live in the body (and what your symptoms may be signaling)
✨ The perfectionism + overachiever loop that keeps women stuck
✨ Simple ways to create downtime, calm your system, and rebuild energy
✨ Heather’s holistic approach blending mind, body, and soul — plus her free resource Ignite Your Wellness
Get Heather’s resource and learn more at flourishnutritionaltherapy.com
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When your body starts whispering, or screaming, that something's off, it's not betrayal, it's communication. Midlife isn't breakdown, it's a breakthrough.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: In this episode, we'll explore how to decode the body's messages, regulate your nervous system, and reclaim the energy, clarity, and confidence that's buried beneath years of stress and self-sacrifice.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the You World Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life health transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the Coach's alchemist, on a mission to empower coaches and entrepreneurs to amplify their voice, monetize their mission, and get visible.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you're ready to start attracting premium clients without chasing algorithms or hunting people down like a banshee on a mission, head over to Coachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit. It's the first step to building a business where your clients seek you out rather than you having to hunt them down. Today, we are chatting with Heather Hansen. Heather is an award-winning international speaker, best-selling author and coach.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: who helps women over 40 reimagine aging and reclaim their vitality. With more than 27 years in health and wellness, Heather blends science, soul, and her own lived journey of resilience into a transformative approach that dissolves symptoms
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: at the root. She guides women to release the weight of what they've carried emotionally and physically so they can reconnect with their bodies, rediscover their purpose, and rise into midlife with peace, power, and unapologetic
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Confidence. Heather's mission is to help women stop settling for survival and step boldly into lives that feel alive and purposeful and free. Welcome to the show, Heather. It's great to have you with us.
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::Heather Hanson: Thank you, I'm excited to be here.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So let me ask you the big question, are y'all ready?
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::Heather Hanson: I'm ready.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going?
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::Heather Hanson: Working on ourselves first, and really working on the things that we've been stuffing down for a lot of years, to where, when we're actually experiencing life, we can actually experience life very differently.
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::Heather Hanson: When we worked on ourselves. First.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that. And as somebody who's
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Currently in a situation that,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: is kind of an interesting experience for me. I'm… I'm navigating some health challenges with my dad, and so I've been away from home, and home is where my husband and dog… my husband of 30 years and my dog live.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I actually have two dogs and a cat, but the one dog is the younger dog, and he's my dog.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it… I've been experiencing some… some body chatter, we'll call it that.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I've gotten the opportunity to explore what it means. And so, I think we'll…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We'll delve into that a little bit as we're… as the conversation progresses, but it's really been interesting to me to see how our bodies talk to us in different
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Stressful, and sometimes…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they can be stressful, and they can be a blessing at the same time. And sometimes we feel guilty for feeling stressed when we should be feeling
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Kind of joyful that we get this opportunity, but… it's, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We can say whatever we want to say, but our body's not going to lie to us.
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::Heather Hanson: It's a bit of a dance, right? Of the… and it's… it's… how does it flow, right? Because we're emotional beings, we're energy beings, right? We are so much more than just the skin and bones that we carry around, and oftentimes we forget
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::Heather Hanson: That we're more than that, and we think we can push ourselves to the brink of whatever we want our bodies to do for us.
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::Heather Hanson: And they'll probably do it for a period of time.
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::Heather Hanson: And then it will send you a lot of clues that it needs something differently. And if we're willing to listen, like you are, you're willing to say, oh.
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::Heather Hanson: what are you actually trying to tell me about this situation? You're being curious with it, instead of, I don't want to have this.
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::Heather Hanson: happen, and trying to control it in some way, of just being open and curious with it, feels so much better.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it feels empowering in a lot of ways. It's like, my shoulder has been…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's been, like, it's my right shoulder, and it… it started out when I first got here.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: two and a half months ago. Then I got sick. But it was my neck and my shoulder, and I realized that I could just talk to it. Tell it it's safe, we're not carrying all this burden by ourselves, and it could just relax. And when I… when I feel relaxed.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's okay. I can do stuff with it, I can, you know, move it all over the place, but if I'm stressed, like, just a little bit stressed, or if I go into the, I'm never going home again mode.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because sometimes it can feel like that when you're navigating the medical community, because they want to slide you into, like, let's just keep you
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They kind of, like, put you in this little box at prison, where, you know, you're at… you're supposed to be at their mercy, and… and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: enslaved to them in some aspects. I mean, that's their perspective of how this thing is supposed to go. And, then, you know, I can't even, like, wave to the neighbors with being excruciating pain. It's just like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It would be humorous if it weren't so painful when it happens.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's like jamming your elbow into the corner of something, and you know that shock that goes through your arm? It doesn't last forever, but you're just like.
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::Heather Hanson: Yeah, that's it.
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::Heather Hanson: It's still interesting, though. There's been so many people that have been written, written about emotions and how they get stored in the body, right? And then what happens and manifests from that. And shoulders for women.
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::Heather Hanson: are big and holding emotions, right? It doesn't mean that there's not problems with the joint and wear and tear. That may be there too, but it's the emotional component that registers with the brain, and the brain is what's really feeling that pain, right?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: news.
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::Heather Hanson: pain signals. So it's really interesting to see, well, what does your body do in a stressful situation?
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::Heather Hanson: Right? And then how do you go, oh, I see what's happening, and then…
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::Heather Hanson: It's really lovely how we can change our situation on our own, just by making some different decisions, right, and how things are going to look, or how things actually look, and then it's like, whew, the body can calm down.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It really does, and you don't even have to be thinking about it, consciously.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Like, I got some bad news on last Thursday.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well, it was bad news for me, and it took me all weekend to process it, but by Saturday morning.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I could not move my arm, and it was just, like, in so much pain all day, that I had conversations with my dad about what
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: what we really wanted to have happen, not what we were told was going to happen, and
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Magically, it all relaxed, and it's like… I don't believe that there's anything mechanically wrong with my arm.
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::Heather Hanson: It may not be, based on when it happened for you, and it was, oh, I have to go take care of my dad, and you… there was a lot of uncertainty, I would imagine.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, damn.
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::Heather Hanson: what is going on with him, and then your body's like, oh, I know what to do.
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::Heather Hanson: This is what I do. I'm gonna put it here for you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just store it for later!
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::Heather Hanson: I think yours is done!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Give you a little extra fat around the middle, too, no matter what you're eating.
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::Heather Hanson: That's how it is, right? I mean, how many people…
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::Heather Hanson: stuff stuff down, they keep on going because they think they have to, they stuff more stuff down, keep on going, they're gonna deal with it later, stuff more stuff down, and then, you know, by the time women get into their 40s, 50s, 60s, when all the hormones are shifting, right, and then things start getting a lot louder in that aspect, where, oh yeah, the body's telling you you can't do that anymore.
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::Heather Hanson: You're a fool.
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::Heather Hanson: You gotta start unloading a bit.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and painted just…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: allowing it not to be, like, this huge crisis in your life, like, I'll admit, Saturday it was kind of a crisis, because I'm right-handed.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I had things to do, but, you know,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it doesn't… it's not a forever thing. I know…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: perfectly well. I'm gonna go home, Sometime.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have a date that I want to go there, but it's probably going to be a week later. But that's okay. We've…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We're navigating it
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, my shoulder can… my shoulder will relax, and it will go back. And I had something happen on my left shoulder where my mom died, and it froze, like.
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::Heather Hanson: And they just gave me a cortisol shot, and I think that the shot was just to, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for my brain. I don't think it did anything to my arm, because he moved it, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it was totally frozen, so there was nothing mechanically wrong with my arm.
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::Heather Hanson: Right. You know, you always think, like, people will say, oh, well, that's all in your mind, right?
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::Heather Hanson: Well, yeah, that's true, because most of this stuff is in our mind, and it's in our unconscious mind that we have no idea all of that is playing underneath, because we couldn't conceive at all, if we go nuts, if we had all of that dancing around. So, yes!
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::Heather Hanson: Is half of medicine or half of the things that we do all in our minds? Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that's okay. It's okay, and it's… it's okay to be in the experience you're in while you're going through it. And I think that
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If people,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: experience someone like you, who helps them look at the situation that's going on. It doesn't necessarily have to be a medical situation like, you know, my shoulder.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I knew what it was. It was really obvious to me. But I have a lot of training in this stuff, too. But if you're out there and you're struggling with things in your system, like, maybe you're…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: coming down with lots of canker sores, or you're not sleeping well at night, or you're finding that everybody triggers you. It's just like, you can't walk into a room and have a conversation without feeling like you want to, you know.
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::Heather Hanson: Yeah, when everyone is irritating you, and you're irritated all the time, there is definitely stuff under the surface.
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::Heather Hanson: That is happening, and that's just the body telling you, hey.
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::Heather Hanson: There's some things you need to work on, and leaning into that takes a lot of intuition, and…
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::Heather Hanson: it takes a lot of strength, quite honestly, to admit, okay, I probably need to do something differently, because most of us don't want to do something differently. We just want to keep going about our ways, and we want our body to do what it's going to do, and we want to control it. We want to tell it it's supposed to do it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah!
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::Heather Hanson: I should go, oh, what could be going on? And, learning that body awareness. I can just imagine, if we talk to children.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Excuse me.
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::Heather Hanson: Ask them, what is going on with your body? Like, for instance, if we even ask kids if they poop, right? If they poop every day. Do you poop every day? Does your tummy hurt? When they might be having a meltdown, or they're just having the, you know, what parents will call a meltdown, or they're just doing that, if we actually ask them, hey, what's going on?
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::Heather Hanson: Are you tired? Is your tummy hurting? We actually asked them whether or not… why they were being overloaded.
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::Heather Hanson: They would probably give us a lot of answers.
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::Heather Hanson: More intelligently than adults would give us.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: cuz… beings… Human beings don't generally just, like, run off and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And try to make their lives more miserable by feeling miserable.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's something that's happening inside of them, and sugar is a really big culprit, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For the love of God, please don't beat your children, soda pop.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just a public service announcement here.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they're better off drinking beer than soda pop. At least beer has some nutritional value, and you're gonna pass out before it does damage to your body. Whereas soda pop, you can drink a whole lot of it, and it will kill you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Be very slow, but it will kill you.
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::Heather Hanson: Oh, and very slow death. You know what drives me nuts more than anything when I hear people, well, they're young, they can do it now.
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::Heather Hanson: No.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Huh?
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::Heather Hanson: No! No! That's not what our human body wants!
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::Heather Hanson: to have it work well, right? The more crap you shove into it, the more fast food, the more chemicals, the more things. It doesn't mean you can't have it here and there, but when it's a regular staple in your diet, and it's more often than not, that's when you're gonna end up having problems.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah And it's… There's so much that's out there that's
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Passed off as… excuse me, food, and, and… things to drink. I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I was having a conversation with my dad in the grocery store, because my dad is an amazing cook. One of the perks of being here, I've just got, like, my own personal chef.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But there's so many… drinks.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: None of which are… Benefiting your body.
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::Heather Hanson: It really wants water.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and that's it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Maybe tea if you're… you're… needing something else. Humans are not designed to drink milk.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Definitely not cow's milk as they age.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And by age, I mean, like, after 5.
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::Heather Hanson: I used to tell, I used to tell, people, you're not a baby cow.
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::Heather Hanson: It's really not a beverage for you, you really don't need that. And if you had a glass here and there, not a big deal. You have a glass every night, probably gonna be a big deal, just like with anything.
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::Heather Hanson: Especially if you mix it with Oreo cookies.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Is there any other way to drink?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And pasteurized milk is even worse.
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::Heather Hanson: Hmm.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you're gonna drink milk.
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::Heather Hanson: Get it straight from the cow, because at least it has all the enzymes in it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To help you digest it.
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::Heather Hanson: Okay, sorry.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just… just… Like I said.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm very passionate about some of this stuff.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And do I eat Oreo cookies? I'm not bad…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Not really, I don't really care for Oreo cookies, but I do like chocolate chip cookies.
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::Heather Hanson: Do you?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes, I do.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: White chocolate chip cookies with macadamia nuts in them, specifically.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Of my standards. You are a woman who knows what she likes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It makes it easier, because you can say, well, I don't like that. I don't need those.
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::Heather Hanson: Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But… No true.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, how do you work with people? Do you work with them in community? Do you work with them one-on-one? What does working with you look like? How do you actually help people?
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::Heather Hanson: So, the number one way that I like to help people is really a one-on-one connection, in the sense where when people come to see me, they're missing pieces in their life, right? They feel like they're not themselves anymore, they've been told that they have all these chronic health conditions, or they feel awful, and they're told all their lab work is normal.
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::Heather Hanson: you know, their body, they're just not feeling well in so many different levels. And so, when someone comes to see me, we do a full evaluation to bring in the components of the mind.
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::Heather Hanson: The body physiology and what's going on in the body, but then there's also that soul-spirit aspect, because all three of those legs
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::Heather Hanson: are important to whether or not we're going to feel the way that we want to feel. And it doesn't mean that every day you're going to wake up going, oh my god, today's amazing, everything is good, that's not life, and it's not gonna happen, but you want to wake up most days.
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::Heather Hanson: feeling like, wow, I've got this day, I have good energy, I have good focus, I'm actually truly living my life, not just making it through the next thing, making it through the next day, checking off the boxes. And so that can look like so many different things. Some people, they eat clean, they're sleeping as much as they can, they're working out, but they're still struggling.
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::Heather Hanson: And those are usually the people that I've seen who are big stuffers, where they stuffed a lot of stuff down, and they just kept going. Then they stuffed more stuff down, and they kept going. The ones that thought they needed more education, they needed to achieve this, they needed to achieve this, and they thought every time they got to that next level.
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::Heather Hanson: That was going to be the key until they got there, and then they still felt the same.
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::Heather Hanson: And it's usually because of what we tell ourselves that's been formulated in our minds between the ages of 3 and 5. Depending on what surrounding an environment we grew up in, we developed these
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::Heather Hanson: Realities.
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::Heather Hanson: And then we made them facts in our mind, they became beliefs, and that's how we guided our life, was around these particular things. And so, it really depends on… you know, when I first went from nursing into nutrition, it was a lot about food.
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::Heather Hanson: And some about other lifestyle factors. And then it became more about the…
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::Heather Hanson: your gut health, your immune system, and really diving deeper into there. And then it became the mindset piece. And then I got into neurolingual programming and hypnosis and breath and energy work. It just became these layers of, oh wow, humans need a lot.
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::Heather Hanson: And when we get these practices in place, we can really unwind and allow our bodies to let go of things it's been holding on too tightly.
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::Heather Hanson: without even really having to talk about it in those senses. So it just really opens people up to being able to, hey, my body can function better, now it's not holding on to 50 years of chaos.
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::Heather Hanson: In that sense. So, that's how I prefer to work with people, is one-on-one, what's going on with them, and then really building their path, okay, here you are, where do you want to be, how are we going to get you there?
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::Heather Hanson: In that sense.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that it doesn't have to be, like, a laundry list of more stuff to do.
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::Heather Hanson: Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's… it's stuff you're already doing. Everybody takes in air.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just show them how to take it in effectively.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's this, like…
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::Heather Hanson: Well, you know, and one of the things that has become very common in doing another thing. Oh, I have to do this, and I have to do this, and I have to do this, and I have to do this, and I have to do this. And…
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::Heather Hanson: in the mind that has to do, I have to do, it's a very negative connotation, so it doesn't really react well in the body, those have-tos.
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::Heather Hanson: And… we also…
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::Heather Hanson: have so much stuff going on all of the time. Like, when I was a little girl.
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::Heather Hanson: Sundays… I grew up in the country. None of the stores were open. You didn't go anywhere on Sunday. You went to church, you went to visit your relatives, and that was it, because there was nothing else open to do. But now, there's not very much downtime.
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::Heather Hanson: ever for people. So people don't know how to have downtime. They only know when there's more information coming at them. So a lot of people, and when I say this, I was that person,
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::Heather Hanson: I didn't like to be still. I didn't like to not be doing something, because then I had to deal with all the feelings and the noise that was dancing around in there, but if I kept myself busy enough.
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::Heather Hanson: I didn't have to listen to it.
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::Heather Hanson: Until I did.
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::Heather Hanson: So, you know, sometimes just take 5 minutes of your day and do nothing.
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::Heather Hanson: Just sit, and just be, and just breathe, and do absolutely nothing, and it will feel incredibly uncomfortable.
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::Heather Hanson: Until it doesn't.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love where I live, normally, because our town does shut down on Sundays.
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::Heather Hanson: Oh, really?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I'm not a particularly religious person, so I don't go to church, but I do…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I do have a day where it's, like, I don't clean my house.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Sometimes, I don't get out of my pajamas.
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::Heather Hanson: Nice.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Or wear a bra. Shh, don't tell anyone.
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::Heather Hanson: But I, it's just like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That one day is different in our household, and it's not about, you know, all the things that have to get done.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's a Monday for that.
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::Heather Hanson: Hmm.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Today, I can do what I want to do and not feel guilty about it, because I think a lot of us overachievers
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We're trained to feel guilty if we take time to ourselves, or if we just want to explore
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Things that we're interested in, but not particularly have to be good at it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And, you know, then that gets into the whole, I've got to be good at everything thing that we're also trained to.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: try to conform to. You don't have to be good at everything. You can start at the beginning on things that you're just interested in. You can just be interested in them without having to be the expert.
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::Heather Hanson: Right, right. And you can be good at everything anyway. A lot of where people get stuck is wanting to be perfect.
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::Heather Hanson: And, like, I'm a perfectionist. It's like, okay, well, that's good. Well, how about we relabel who you are? Because if you're only aiming for perfection, you will only get there for a second.
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::Heather Hanson: And then it won't be perfect anymore. So then you have to try to get it again. So if you're always trying to get somewhere where there's really no destination, you can't stay in perfection, you can't. It's not possible. So if we go, oh, okay, well, how about we get it to 80% perfect?
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::Heather Hanson: And 80% is good, then it allows the brain to go, oh, Okay.
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::Heather Hanson: Doesn't need to be.
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::Heather Hanson: Better than that. It's good enough.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, good enough. Get started. It's good enough.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just do that one thing. It's good enough.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's going to change. There is no such thing as perfection.
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::Heather Hanson: Nope.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And nobody's gonna love you more If you wait.
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::Heather Hanson: Right, right, right.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: our minds tell us that. It's like, if I do it, and it's so spectacular, and I'm, like, such the best, then everyone will love me, and they'll want to do stuff with me, or they'll want me for whatever, or whatever. But it doesn't ever work that way, and the people that are at the very top.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They didn't just accidentally get there.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You missed the whole… growth model.
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::Heather Hanson: Exactly, exactly. You know, I was just having this conversation a little bit earlier, and we were talking, we were talking about…
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::Heather Hanson: Influencers.
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::Heather Hanson: on social media, I'm not bashing anybody at all, I'm just saying, in general, influencers, is people decide that they know a thing, and then they're gonna tell everybody about this thing, and then people are gonna believe that they're an expert in this thing.
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::Heather Hanson: And they're probably not. And it creates so much confusion.
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::Heather Hanson: for people, because there's so much information coming out, they're like, oh, I need to take this supplement, or that supplement, or this supplement. It's like, so much information, and people used to, but I put a stop to it. They, well, what do you think about this product? Like, I know nothing about that product. Well, this so-and-so says that this is the best thing ever. I'm like, well, I'm not going to research it right now, because I don't have time to just sit and research things.
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::Heather Hanson: Because I'm the person… I would never tell somebody, every person has to take this supplement, and then this is gonna happen if you take this thing. And…
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::Heather Hanson: There is a perfectionism part to that, because people want
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::Heather Hanson: to weigh the right amount. They want to have the right amount of energy, right? They're really trying to get to that perfect, and that's where it gets very confusing of, oh my gosh, I have to have that, or I have to have that, or if I don't have this mascara that's going to grow my 50-plus eyelashes to this link. What am I gonna do? It's like, wow, marketing has come a very different way into seeing what we need.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And honestly, we don't. What we need are healthy bodies, That are well nourished.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And not so stressed.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And part of that, not being stressed, is relaxing into…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My goal for this year was to just relax into experiences that I was having.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So the universe in its infinite wisdom came with this unique and interesting experience that I'm going through.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But if you look at it, you can have humor about the situations and the experiences that you're having without having to label them. You can say, okay, this… so this happened.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And now that happened.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Isn't that interesting?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And this is where we're being directed.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But what if we do this?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Rather than just accepting what we're told. It's just like, we have all the power.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To do whatever we want, and to have…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To experience the experiences we're having in whatever way we choose, but we've been programmed for so long that we have to label things.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know, I can laugh about my arm. Does it cause me discomfort sometimes? Yeah, it does. I mean, there's… there's real pain there, but it's kind of funny.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: then it's doing this. And I know that it's doing this, and I know why it's doing this.
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::Heather Hanson: Well, you know, laughter changes the whole physiology of the body in just moments.
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::Heather Hanson: And anger changes the whole physiology of…
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::Heather Hanson: your body in moments. And your opening question to me is like, you know, how do we… how do we really make the world a better place with what we're doing? And when we show up, right, when we have been laughing.
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::Heather Hanson: taught ourselves often, and I'm talking about me. I've gone, oh my gosh, how did I do that? I can't believe this. And even when I was working in medical practices in an office in nursing, I think everybody knew where I was because of my laughter. It was just this loud thing, because that brought so much peace.
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::Heather Hanson: to the people in there that didn't really feel very well, right? And it was a stressful kind of operation, in doing that, but when you brought that piece in… So if we all…
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::Heather Hanson: really laughed at ourselves or laughed with others on a daily basis. How different would our world be if we showed up in that energy around others?
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::Heather Hanson: Because it really does transition, and you can change your room with your happiness and your vibrant energy, you can change that, and you can change it with your anger and your disdain. So you get to choose what changes you want to make.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And how do you want others to be reacting to you? Because whatever you put out there.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're coming back at you, baby.
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::Heather Hanson: Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can hire Heather to hold the mirror up for you, so you don't have to do it with other people.
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::Heather Hanson: So true, Lorraine.
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::Heather Hanson: Me?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Year's coming, whether you like it or not.
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::Heather Hanson: Yeah, they do, but you know, mirrors are hard.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Fortunately, as you get older, your vision kind of fades a little bit.
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::Heather Hanson: That is true. You know, this is… this is… it has to do with a mirror, but it's kind of interesting, this is how women are. I would have some of my clients, like, oh, my skin, it's so wrinkly, and it's system, like, are you looking with a magnifying mirror?
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::Heather Hanson: And yes, I was like, okay, well, you know people our age do not have magnifying eyes, so they are not going to be seeing everything that you're seeing with that magnification mirror, and they'd be like.
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::Heather Hanson: And then you can laugh at yourself, because you really don't look that way, unless you're quiet. No!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My dad, he's turning 90 next month.
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::Heather Hanson: Oh, wow.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… and he's… he's got… he really does have a lot of things
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, giving him challenges with his health, because She's almost 90, and…
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::Heather Hanson: Get to that point, we're challenges.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But he starts saying, you know, hey, dude. But he's… he's having these eye problems, and… and he's had the best attitude. I've… I've learned so much about lifing well from my dad, that I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: he… he didn't have any cream for his eyes, and they were… they were… his eyelids were red and bothering him, so I brought him out my…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: my face cream. And he liked it. He liked it so much, he bought himself some. So our standing joke is, oh, Dad, your eyes look so young.
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::Heather Hanson: I'm so cute.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: sister's coming out to visit, and I'm gonna encourage her to comment on how great his eyes look.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He's got all his marbles. I mean, he's really a sharp human being still, so he'll love it.
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::Heather Hanson: Isn't it interesting, as you can see that in people that are 90 years old, and then you might look at somebody who's 30 and wonder what in the world is going on in their brain?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He remembers everything, and he has a million jokes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, he loves to laugh.
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::Heather Hanson: That's part of his lifeline, right? It's just jokes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, he goes to his singles club once a month, and his job is to tell the joke.
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::Heather Hanson: That's okay.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How about it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's so… you know, when we're in stressful situations where the medical community's telling us what they're going to do, and what we have to do, and he'll… he'll tell me a joke, and just…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Don't be laughing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We take breaks, we don't have, like, these really full-on
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it gives us a break, a time to think and process and… and feel, you know, where… where do you want to go? Because my job is just to…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Put the boundaries up and let him do what he wants to do.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to maintain his quality of life, and he lives on his own, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I live 800 miles away, normally.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so, you know, I'm going to leave, and I want to know that he's going to be able to live his life the way he wants to live it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: want to go into a facility, and he's just, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so you have to manage these things, you know, there's… Give and take.
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::Heather Hanson: there really is a give and take. And, you know, I think, you know, as…
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::Heather Hanson: I think about this a lot, is as people age, and especially younger people look at people that are older, and they just see them as being old, and maybe not having the rights or the desire… that they should have the desire to figure out how they want to live the rest of their life.
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::Heather Hanson: on what they actually did and accomplished in their lives, they'd be looked at very differently, but it just… it's this evolution of that the older you get, you don't matter, which is the exact opposite, because that's where wisdom comes in. And your dad, to be 90, and to be… still be laughing and telling jokes.
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::Heather Hanson: People need that wisdom.
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::Heather Hanson: Of, oh, what do you do?
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::Heather Hanson: To actually be able to be that old and still have your brain function.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I mean… He carves walking sticks, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: art. I mean, he's still an amazing artist, and he…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He's lived a really interesting life.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And he still remembers it, and he can tell me about it. Sometimes, yes, I hear stories over and over again, but
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Then he'll come up with something that I didn't hear before.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Or I didn't know when I was younger, when they might have told me, but it's like, oh, that's new.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just bits of information that… we need… like, I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: within the last 10 years, learned I'm related to Benjamin Franklin.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it was because of some research my grandmother, his mother, had done to get into the Daughters of the American Revolution, because in the 20s and 30s, it was kind of a… even the 50s, it was kind of a big deal to be part of that group, to trace your roots back to the founding of the country.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Not that I think it's a big deal at this point, but it's just interesting history.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And her dad was a country doctor.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the stories he tells about that, I think, are fascinating.
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::Heather Hanson: So fascinating. And…
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::Heather Hanson: Really, I wish it was a fly on the wall in so many different eras, right, of just seeing how it's gonna be, because I'm really curious to see how 20-year-olds, what they're gonna… how they're gonna age.
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::Heather Hanson: In that sense. It's going to be very different, I have no doubt.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think lifespans are going to shrink dramatically, just because… in the United States, just because of…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The crap in the food supply.
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::Heather Hanson: I mean, just, like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: kids are dying because they're having… they're ODing on power, those power drinks that…
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::Heather Hanson: So, yeah, the energy drinks.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Energy drinks, yeah. This is, like… Those are over the counter.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: No, no age limit on them. Yeah, they can't buy cigarettes, but, you know…
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::Heather Hanson: You can go buy vape, which is pretty easy to get. Or those pouches, the nicotine pouches.
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::Heather Hanson: Those are really easy to get for kids, too.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they're damaging their bodies in so many ways, and then just the basic food supply. Most parents don't cook. They give their kids, like, chicken nuggets and things that their kids will… will eat, because they're chemically
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Treated, created, in order to stimulate your desire to eat too much of it.
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::Heather Hanson: So true. And it's all about convenience.
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::Heather Hanson: It drives me nuts when people are like, oh, I don't have time to cook.
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::Heather Hanson: How long did you spend on your phone?
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::Heather Hanson: Right?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Binge watching that show, or…
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::Heather Hanson: Watching the show on your phone, on Facebook, because if you spend hours a day on Facebook, or some other social media, or whatever, TikTok, whatever people are looking at, if you have time to spend that much time, you can cook yourself a 20 or 30 minute meal.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You could be using that time to look up recipes.
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::Heather Hanson: Yep.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That then go to the store and buy the ingredients.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Be a RIM shopper.
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::Heather Hanson: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Ugh.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So… What does it really mean to reimagine midlife?
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::Heather Hanson: So, reimagining midlife, right? So…
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::Heather Hanson: I think we're so accustomed to thinking that as we age, we deteriorate. That we are not as valuable, that we are not as strong, that we are not as healthy, that we're just done, right? It just…
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::Heather Hanson: here we are. And I know a lot of corporations treat people that way, in that sense. For instance, women who are struggling when they're going through perimenopause, into menopause, and postmenopausal, the struggles that are around them are not typically supported by their company in any way, shape, or form. And so.
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::Heather Hanson: a lot of women will think that that's it. They've already lived their best days, that they've been as healthy as they are ever going to be, or as fit as they've ever been.
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::Heather Hanson: And… That's not the case.
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::Heather Hanson: Right.
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::Heather Hanson: just because you're getting older does not mean that you can't put lean muscle on, that you can't have good cognitive function, that you can't lean into the next best chapter of your life. So, what I really encourage women to do is really look at
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::Heather Hanson: what does the next decade of your life look like? Instead of grasping backwards of, oh, well, I don't want to lose my hair color, I don't want to lose, you know, I don't want to have wrinkles, I don't want to have this, I want to go backwards, why do we not lean forward?
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::Heather Hanson: And really focusing that on forward, focusing on how, hey, how am I going to be 50 years old and gain muscle? And I'm going to be fit, and I'm going to have a lot of energy, and what am I going to do in my next phase of my career, my life? How am I going to live my life differently? How am I going to enjoy my life? And so, when we're really looking at life of, oh, what's next? And we're looking at this next journey instead of.
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::Heather Hanson: Oh, I just made it through this day.
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::Heather Hanson: Right? And going, ugh, the best of my years are done. I really want people to look at their lives in that way, of, let's find the adventure moving forward. Let's get you feeling better with your wisdom that you have now, so that you actually have the knowledge to go, hey, I know what I can do next.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that. I… At almost 66, I think…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: This part of my life has been the best part of my life.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And we need more older women to tell the younger women, hey, you're just beginning the best
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: years of your life, you're not done. And society has told women who are 40 that, oh, you're useless now, you're beyond your childbearing days, you know, just go sit over there in the living room and wait till you die.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You're gonna live another half of your life Maybe longer.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: than that. A lot of women live into their 90s.
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::Heather Hanson: Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Even 100 is not unheard of.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… it's… It's about embracing The change that's happened to you, and… and… and enjoying it, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's just like, everything is better on this side of menopause.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just, like… It just is.
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::Heather Hanson: No, it just is, and we've learned enough, too. And you know, the more of us that are doing it this way, you have this whole trickle-down effect, right, of our daughters, and I don't have daughters, but I have granddaughters, four of them, and…
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::Heather Hanson: I don't really want that… I know they're gonna have their own struggles, and they need their own struggles, and that's fine, but I don't want them to have the same body image struggles that I had, as a young girl, and I want them to be able to have the confidence to go into things and not hold themselves back. And if we're showing them by living it, that's how they absorb it, and they see it, and then it will help other generations.
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::Heather Hanson: Is, you know.
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::Heather Hanson: just like your opening question to me, like, how are we changing this world? Like, how are we making things better? We get a choice to make it better, and if we're living our life better and more full.
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::Heather Hanson: Then we will help the future generations.
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::Heather Hanson: And really seeing what is actually important and not important.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you offer people a resource.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to ignite their wellness. You want to talk a little bit about that?
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::Heather Hanson: Yeah, absolutely. So a lot of the people that I see struggle with different types of symptoms. Brain fog is a big one, or struggling with their memory, bloating, or just weight gain where they don't really want the weight gain, like, around the middle, and the hips and thighs area. And so this resource really just walks them through some deeper questions on what's more likely causing that, right? Because
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::Heather Hanson: when we're putting our… where our worth is, right? Our worth is not what our outside body looks like. Our worth is really not what job are we doing, and our worth is not how much money is in our bank account, because wealth means a lot more than just the money in our bank account. Is it… it opens to some questions that are much deeper about
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::Heather Hanson: Who you are, what do you actually want, and how do you turn that around into having the life that you want to live?
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::Heather Hanson: In that sense. So, it's just some deep questions.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that, and they can find that at…
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::Heather Hanson: So that is, a link that if they go to my website, Flourish Nutritional Therapy, they can actually just put their name and email address in it, and then it'll just send it right to them.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Perfect. And if they want to get in touch with you,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To explore what you're doing as far as hiring you to help them
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: get the results they're looking to get. They can also do that through your website?
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::Heather Hanson: They can do that through my website. I am rebranding and doing our relaunch. I'm keeping that website, but I'm also rebranding into, bolder things. And on LinkedIn or Instagram, you can… and Facebook, too. You can find me at Coach Heather Hansen.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Perfect.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And when you start your substack, it can be Coach Heather Hansen, too.
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::Heather Hanson: Yes, yes, because, you know, it's all supposed to be the same. See, I learned lessons this year. Everything should match.
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::Heather Hanson: on all platforms, so that's gonna be a checkbox, so yes, I'll get the substack up, too.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Awesome. Thanks so much for joining us, Heather. This has been a great conversation.
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::Heather Hanson: Yes, I agree. Thank you for having me.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Heather, and to get your copy of Ignite Your Wellness, uncover some hidden resources of fatigue, bloating, and brain fog, please visit her website, flourishnutritionaltherapy.com, and we'll be sure to put that link in the show notes below. Thanks for tuning in today to the You World Order Showcase podcast. If you're ready to amplify your voice, monetize your mission, and start attracting premium clients, your next step is simple. Head to thecoach's
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