From High Performance to Deep Presence: Leadership That Lives in the Body
High-achieving women can run companies, lead teams, and carry massive responsibility…
and still feel the most powerless at home with their own kids.
In this episode, I’m joined by Micheline Green, a strategic women’s wisdom partner who guides visionary women leaders from high performance into deep presence. We talk about what’s really happening underneath tension, shutdown, emotional reactivity, and burnout—and why leadership isn’t just a mindset… it’s something your body has to be able to hold.
You’ll hear why the “all-or-nothing” pressure (at work, in motherhood, in culture) keeps so many women disconnected from their center—and the one shift that changes both parenting and leadership at the root: restoring connection within yourself first, so you can lead from wholeness instead of willpower.
In this conversation, we cover:
- Why so many successful women feel stretched thin and reactive at home
- What it means to “come home to yourself” (and why it’s not just a spiritual idea—it’s a nervous system skill)
- Why “having it all” is real… but not all at the same time
- How the feminine + masculine are energy systems, not gender—and why access to both ends burnout
- Micheline’s framework for expanding beyond the 5 senses into subtle + transpersonal intelligence
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: High-achieving women are running companies, Leading teams?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And holding massive responsibility.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yet, many feel most powerless at home with their own children. Not because they're doing something wrong, but because no one ever taught them how leadership actually lives in the body. In this conversation, we're revealing what's really happening beneath those moments of tension, shutdown, and emotional reactivity, and how the same inner capacities that create deep connection at home also create the most powerful leaders at work.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: By the end, you'll understand the one shift that changes both parenting and leadership at its core. Hi, and welcome to the You World Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life, health, transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm your host, Jill Hart, The Coach's alchemist, on a mission to empower coaches and entrepreneurs to amplify their voice, monetize their mission, and get visible.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Today, we are chatting with Michelin Green. Michelin is a strategic women's wisdom partner guiding visionary women leaders from high performance into deep presence. With over 25 years of global experience spanning executive coaching, trauma-informed counseling, wardolph education, and leadership development, she bridges a rigorous human development theory with embodied feminine wisdom.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: As an integral master coach and senior facilit…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: faculty at Integral Coaching Canada, Michelin helps women cultivate grounded authority, intuitive intelligence, and soul-aligned leadership in both their families and their organizations. Her upcoming book, Leadership Parenting, explores how the way we parent today shapes the leaders of tomorrow. Welcome to the show, Michelin. It's great to have you with us.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Thank you, Jill. It's a pleasure to be here.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, so let's ask you the big question, are you ready?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Dun-dun!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Woo! That's a biggie. Single thing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I think it's coming back into connection.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: The subtext of my title is Release, Control, and Restore Connection of the book Leadership Parenting.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I think that we have… Disconnected from our bodies.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We are…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Disconnected from one another, we are disconnected from nature.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We're disconnected from the spiritual, invisible, mysterious world, and I think returning, first and foremost, to ourselves, inside of our own bodies, inside of our, you know, own… the only place where we truly have control, which is with ourselves.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Restoring that connection, first and foremost, is what is going to change the world.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I agree. This year just feels like a year for connection and collaboration. Every year, I… I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: listen for the word of the year for myself. Last year, it was Get Visible, and it was all about getting visible. The year before was about peace.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and peace for myself, mostly. But it really shaped the whole year. This year is just all about, just to hear collaboration and connection, and connection? We've spent so much time with AI, and AI is, like, gonna take over the world, but really, it won't.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If we connect with each other, human to human, and we need human-to-human connection. It's just, like.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: 100%, 100%, for sure, and what I… what I often will say is, we need each other, and yet we fear each other.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think that's a big part of…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Just our cultural conditioning and where we are currently and our societal structures is…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: There's forces that are at play to keep us apart, to… to have us fear one another, you know, to build this great divide between us and…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: you know, our family, our neighbors, our, you know, our partners that we're raising our children with. And so, we need each other now, and yet we fear each other now. So how do we come together
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Even though this fear is present. And that's kind of the big question, is, you know, how do we find that connection and collaboration with each other? And it starts by returning home to ourselves, to finding that safety within ourselves.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: curiosity. Instead of… being drawn into joining teams, which is kind of what I feel like
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: everything is set up to… you have to be on Team Red, or Team Blue, or… and you have to defend all of the pieces of Team Red, or Team Blue, even though they really don't…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: fit with who you are? Yeah, some of them might.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But not all of them, and it doesn't…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's like, we're being told it has to be all or nothing.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: You can't just be you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… and say, no, no, I… I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm not against this part of it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: on this side, and I, you know, I kind of like this part on that side. I can just be in the middle, and I can… I can just say, you know, I just want…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Peace.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Bill Cosby had a… had a… a comedy act. It's just like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and one of the lines was, they've got stuff that belongs to me to… I don't want fairness, I just want quiet.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Hmm…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's like, sometimes I just want quiet. I don't… I don't need all the chat.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think,
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: You know, the desire… the all or nothing is also, you know, it's a… it's a societal construct in the sense that
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We've kind of been raised in this belief system that it is black or it is white.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: it is right, or it is wrong. That is a consciousness worldview that many of us, and all of us, have been raised in, and yet there's an evolution that's happening. There is a rising of our consciousness, there's an opening of our aperture to recognize that, wait a second.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: It's not just black and white. There is a whole lot of gray that is happening here. And that gray area is allowing for the multidimensionality of who we are.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We're not just, like you said, red or blue. We are… we have… we have so much more involved in… within ourselves, you know? And so, again, coming back home to ourselves, what are we relying on for making decisions? What are we relying on within ourselves for safety?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: You know, we have this brain that's got left and right hemisphere. It is…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: built for duality. It is built for right side, left side, and managing the balance between the two.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And that's where we've relied for decision-making for many, many years. And what…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: is now recognizing, and neuroscience is backing this up, and quantum physics is backing this up. It's like, wait a second, we have so much more intelligence within us. I mean, the Chinese system believes that the heart is the emperor, not the mind. So there you go, our Western culture shifted that, right?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And so, the heart as the emperor, and how do we get in and connected to the heart? Or how about now in the autonomic nervous system, and all of the information we're learning about the autonomics, and the intelligence of our gut, right, and the amount of…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Receptors that are in our gut that help us to ground.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: That help us to stay connected to nature, that help us stay grounded in feeling a sense of safety with inside of ourselves, and not just looking to the external, visible world.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: But looking inward into the invisible world that is available to us. I mean, I always say the universe that is so big out there is… we just… we have as big of a universe with inside of ourselves.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We do. And I… I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have this thought sometimes. You know how the universe is… it's… all the different parts make up the universe? Well, each human body is… is a little universe of its own. You have different cells, which are living organisms, in and of themselves, in this
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Container that we call…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: ourselves. And they don't all perform the same job, so they're all different, and they all function together, and they… there's a communication system between them, and it's not just like your brain.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's… It's all of you, and if you can slow down and… and feel…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: what a situation is doing, or how… how it… it… an interaction is… is happening. And I don't even mean just between two people, it can be between you and an animal, or you and a tree, or a plant.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Because we have connections with those.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Also.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: That's necessary.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's so much bigger than just, like, what we've been told. You're just a body.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And so, right, there's… there's…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: You know, this idea of, like, the connection with the invisible world, you know, we are the…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: you know, 7 billion, or excuse me, 8 billion cells that are making up Mother Earth, you know, as we have what…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: 57 trillion cells just within our body or something, right? And it's like…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And this is trying to work in a homeostasis, right? Just like Mother Nature, just like us, we're trying to find this place of homeostasis. So, one thing I used to always tell when I worked in the school systems, I've…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I've coached, you know, directors of schools, and I've coached teachers, and I've worked with a lot of parents in school systems, and mainly in the Montessori and the Waldorf schools. Different philosophy of education, which is something that I always supported.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: always was looking for something different for my own kids. And teachers felt… they feel very siloed. They feel very isolated on their own, in their own classroom.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And, you know, that's where there's not support going across from each other, but there's more
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: fear of one another, and like, somebody's gonna see that I'm doing it wrong, or somebody's gonna see that maybe I raised my voice in a different way. So they're trying to keep people out, but that's literally like saying, you know, the kidney cell is trying to stay away from the stomach cell.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: You know, or we don't want to yell at each other, you know, it's like the metaphor is there that we're just trying to find a balance, and we're trying to find homostasis with inside of ourselves. So, coming back to that idea of…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: How do we…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: be with each other, connect with each other, collaborate with each other beyond this fear. And so what is that fear? That's the question, is why are we fearing each other?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And I always come back to, because we're so disconnected from ourselves.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We don't have an internal, what I like to call is, like, an inner alignment of integrity.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Right? Something that grounds us right down to our feet and comes up right through our center and up through the top of our head, so that it can shift and move and wobble and bend, but it's not breakable.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And right now, we don't have that with inside of ourselves. Most, especially our children. We're seeing, of course, a huge mental health crisis within our children.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And that's because the parents themselves are so stretched and torn between
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: you know, the fear of, I need to make money, and I need to have a job, and I need to, you know, I want to be producing in this world, and I have children at home, and I want to raise them, but that is causing this huge tearing…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And it mostly falls on mothers, of not knowing where their own center is. And if we can't access that deep, tap root with inside of ourselves.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We can't access that inner wisdom that I help guide so many, you know, executive leaders and directors who are also mothers.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think there's a… there's a big component of guilt in there that gets… moved along, especially for women.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Hmm.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When you… when you start talking about having children, and some of us are wired to have children, but it's really hard when you're also
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You have this career that's really important to you, and it's not to minimize having a career, because
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I was a mom in the 80s. It was… we could have it all. You could be super mom, and super wife, and super executive, and… and make all this money, and live the best life, and it was, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: yeah, it didn't work for me. It was just, like, it burned me out, and I didn't understand that it was burning me out, but… and I have two kids that are, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They were really traumatized by the whole thing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And a husband that was gone all the time. My husband at the time was a sub-sailor, so he would be gone for 6, 8 months at a time, and it was before cell phones or computers. So, it was just, like, me.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And all these things that I had to do, because, you know, otherwise I was a failure as a human being.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But if we could get to a point where we could just let people be people.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Hmm.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: men or women, you know, I don't care if there's a man that
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: his wife is… he's married to a woman who's very powerful and an executive, and he takes on the role of raising the children. We're living in an environment where it doesn't matter, but we really need to be involved with our kids.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: One of the parents.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Yeah,
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: One thing I just would say there is, you know, get. You know, how can we get to…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I want to take that out of the equation, that we're not trying to get anywhere. I think that language in and of itself is still part of our old paradigm thinking of
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: climbing a ladder, achieving, you know, having it all, all this stuff. So I particularly, and especially being a, you know, a master coach, you know, I'm trained to listen to language and hear patterns, and changing perspective on language is really important. In regards to, you know.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: having…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Being a mother, we… we know, I think, you know, many of us here know that we need more women leaders, we need more women in positions of power, we need more women, shaping the future.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And those women who are in those positions are also mothers.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And so we cannot…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: keep these two roles separate, and I think COVID did a beautiful job tearing down the illusion that we have a professional life and a personal life, you know?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: It's just like, oh, wait a second, this is all going on, you know, in each other's lives, and…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: These systems that many people are still working in are systems that are… were built from patriarchal culture, and they didn't honor the inner wisdom of the feminine. It's not set up to support this, these… these relationships that we have as women, both mothers and as
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: leaders, and so…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: It's a really important time for women to come back home to themselves, deep reconnection with self.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And not just to, like, of course, this inner wisdom, but their values of what they most… what is their deepest intention, and what are their deepest values, so that we can come back to value-based living. Because I truly believe we can have it all, it just might not be all at the same time.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Because that's a myth. That is a complete myth, that you can do everything at the same time. But what you can do, instead of…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: you know, trying to manage everything is coming back to deep presence. And this is what a lot of the work that I do, because once we have deep presence, meaning we are fully embodied here and now, in this present moment.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Our mind, our spirit, our heart, our gut, our body is fully here and present with another human being, our child, or colleague, or a boss, whatever. But when we come fully present.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: That is when we have access to our greatest power.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Our greatest power to be able to sense and see and feel, and this is the… these… these are the feminine, wise, wise feminine skills to really sense into what is needed in this moment.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And also, what's needed in the future? So, I often use the language of future-led coach.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Because I've seen a lot of women leave corporate and start their own businesses, much like in coaching.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And what ends up happening is they kind of take that patriarchal culture that they were working with in the corporate world, and now they're applying it to their business. They're still pounding it out, and hustling, and proving, and kind of in that performative way.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Wondering why they're still burnt out. And so it's… what we don't recognize is these cultural systems are deep with inside of us.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And they're happening unconsciously. So until we begin to do the work individually.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: begins individually. We can do it collectively. I have a group that I work with, and to me, I find, and again, like you said, we are at a time where collectively, we can burn through a lot of our baggage a lot quicker.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: But with my individual clients, whom I work with for long periods of time, 9 months to a year, if not longer, we're working to… how do we come home to yourself?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: feel deeply within yourself, to know where these belief patterns, how they're showing up in your body, in your emotions, in your actions, in the ways that you are checking the world to know if you're doing okay. These are all important pieces
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: That need to be kind of the… pull back the layers to kind of understand how are you currently working, and how do you want to be working in the world? How do you want to be in the world?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: with that deeper presence, that inner wisdom, and that ability to be future-sourced, not just repeating patterns of the past. And this is really important because, you know, my first book here, Leadership Parenting, is about the woman, individually, in her relationship with her children, as she is also a leader.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I'm really feeling… and I'm naming it now, and I probably should stop talking, but it keeps coming out of me. There is a second book that wants to be written about… and once we've done that, how do we start really changing the systems?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: that once you're… if you're in the system, how do you start changing it from within? Because I think that's the next step, the important piece.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think so, too. I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: all the… all the pieces are broken right now. And now is the perfect time for the shift to happen.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: women… Women are waking up to the idea that we are not broken men.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that doesn't work for us.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… and yet, we can still be fully feminine.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Hmm.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Without having to deny the masculine parts of ourselves.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I think it helps men, because you can… you can allow them to embrace some of their femininity.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the feminine parts, because none of us are all one or the other. We're all all of these pieces, and.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: It gives…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: them permission to be whole, instead of, you have to be over there, and I'm gonna be over here, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We only… there's only one way to do this. Goes back to the, you know, the fear of not being enough.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm curious.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Yeah, for sure. The wholeness piece is a big part of what I do with my clients and what I work with, you know, and that's Carl Jung's work about the sacred marriage of anima and animus, which is really that inner masculine and inner feminine that's within us.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: In each of us, and that inner… the feminine and the masculine, and they're energy systems, they're not attached to the gender at all. They're energetic systems, and how they work, and how they… how we need them, and we need both of them.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Absolutely.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: All the time, and we're weaving in and out. And when we have access to more of them.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Right? Then we're not only relying on one. So coming back to the brain model, right, we as a Western culture have overly relied on the brain for decision making. Then we've overly relied on the left side of the brain, which is the rational and logical main…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: part of the brain. And so, that's often considered the masculine side of the brain. Rational, logical, linear. And so, if you're not making decisions from there, then, you know, you're not doing it right.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And yet, women make decisions the right side of the brain, which is holistic and emotional and can be quite chaotic. And that's normal kind of space that women can play in and work in.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And yet, that's considered not okay. And so, coming into this balance and knowing when to rely and to draw from either-or, to be able to… to be leading from wholeness, and not from…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Willpower. So again, coming back to that sense of connection to self, because…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: When we are leading from willpower and not wholeness, we are completely ignoring our own system, our full body here. Masculine, the feminine, but all of the energy that we have access to.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We're cramping and crimping up different parts of ourselves to override it.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And that only leads to burnout. I mean, that's a pretty common…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: disease.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: disease, right? When we are overriding our autonomic nervous systems, which we have a salagenic state, which is the health center, and we have a pathogenic state, which is a diseased state.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so, the autonomic nervous system, which is one system of our bodies.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: is sending us signals all the time. Our bodies are sending us signals all the time. And so when we override those signals, which we all do.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: That's when we are…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: running… we're holding energy to hold that down, so I'm not gonna pay attention to that now. So I'm gonna lock that down.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And that takes a lot of energy to do. It's exhausting, because you hold that down for a week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a year, 5 years, 10 years, 40 years. My oldest client is 83, so…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: You know, that's a lot of years of holding something down, and it's… it's… it is. It's a disease-creating state.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And so, being able to reconnect the body and to listen to the wisdom that is there, you know, and this is what I offer with my free offering called Awakening the Spidey Senses. You know, we often think of the five senses, right? We all know them.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We don't bring them consciously to our mind, because they do run unconsciously. Thank goodness our beautiful bodies are able to run so much unconsciously, and we don't have to think about it.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: But what happens when we do bring consciousness to those five centers, those five senses, right? How we use our eyes, how we use our hearing, how we use our sense of smell, you know, to bring us back fully present. That's what brings us to the here and now.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Now, I come from Waldorf schools. Waldorf schools are built on the, anthroposophical model that Rudolf Steiner created back in the early 1900s. It is a study of this kind of the… he called it the spiritual science of man. Obviously, that's human. But, he talked about 12 senses.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And so, what I have in awakening the spidey senses is I've actually laid out 15 senses. So beyond our physical senses, we have subtle senses, and beyond our subtle senses, we have transpersonal senses.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And so how to be sensing into, and this is the ability to sense into the future.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: How do we sense into reverence and unity, right? And so these all can be developed. These are all just practice-based development, and so that is what I offer in the Awakening Spidey Senses.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, I love that. I…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: when you were talking about the five senses, I was thinking, I hope she goes further than that.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And you certainly did. Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We have so much ability as a human being that we just… Pernevor…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We're never allowed to examine, because, you know, beyond the five… if you're looking at beyond the five senses, then you're getting in the woo-woo territory, and people are gonna just dismiss you, but more and more, it's… it…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Woo, to me, woo is just… and magic. It's just science that hasn't been explained yet. If you showed a computer to somebody many years ago, they would probably look at it and say, oh, that's magic.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because they don't understand it. I mean, there's some old people, you show them a computer, and they're like, oh, that's magic, and they dismiss you. But,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's… it's becoming more apparent in science, with neuroscience, that there's… there's so much more capacity for a human to experience this… this presence
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to a greater extent, and I love that you're sharing that with your… your clients. And you were talking about you… you have individual sessions and group sessions. Is it like a community? How does all that… how does your coaching look?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: So, I work, you know, much like I said, a deep dive. Nine months could go longer to a year. I've had some clients I've worked with. These are, you know, executives, self-led.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Driven, purpose-driven women who are also mothers at home, and a lot of the coaching is building that sense of wholeness within them, so that they are navigating full presence.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: you know, being able to access the whole intelligence of their body. I mean, these are… these are the women who walk into a room
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And everyone is waiting to hear what they have to say.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because you know it's going to be deep, and it's going to be profound.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And it's gonna be powerful.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And those are the kind of women, those are the women we want leading, who understand the depth of the invisible world, while also being able to navigate this very material, visible world.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Which we know is all crashing down around us as we speak, slowly and steadily.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: The woo-woo part, you know, I understand. I mean, you and I have probably been around the coaching world a long time. You know, I started out, you know, 16 years ago, full-time coaching, you know, 25, 30 years ago, counseling.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And, you know, I think we gotta stop saying woo-woo.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Just, just, this is my own thing. We, you know, I think everybody's realizing
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: You know, it's becoming the norm that there is an invisible world. I think my cell phone's magic. I don't know how it works, but it works.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I think me communicating with people like my clients are around the world, I think that's magic. I think that's beautiful technology. My body is a beautiful technology that can do amazing things that I don't know anything about.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: So, this is the work that I do. It's deep work, it's deeply penetrative work.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: But the results come on quite quickly.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Because we're uncovering and unpacking and pulling back the layers of how my clients are currently showing up, but also building the new skills and capacities for how they want to be showing up with their kids, their partners, and at work.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I do also have some group work that I do. It's a course… I don't like to even call it a course. You'll see it on my website. I call it an initiation.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: It is, I think, that we are at a time where we need to be coming together as women.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I think, traditionally, women have been challenged to be together in group.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Partially, you know, because of the patriarchal, kind of, belief systems that we have within us.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And so, I think this is the time where we're coming together, and if you're… for coming into this group, it's called Be All In.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Right? So here we go. How many of us… I'm gonna out myself here, right? My foot half in my coaching business and half out of, like, you know, when I first started. And it wasn't until I was like, wait a second.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I'm all in. Like, there's nothing else in this world that I would rather do, that I am so gifted at, and I'm a genius at being with clients and helping them create sustainable change in their lives.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I gotta go all in here. Like, this is it. This is my full purpose for being here on my… in the world. So if you are someone who has this full purpose, and you feel yourself half in, half out, come to this program. It's an initiation. It's your initiation.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And it is some deep processes of breaking down all of these belief systems that we have been told and taught to believe.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And really stretching ourselves into the future that we know is possible. We know it's possible. The new level of consciousness is already here on this planet.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And it's really about living from a loved, centered space. But yet, we all have fear. And so how much does fear control us and take over us?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And how do we be in relationship with that fear, but not let it overwhelm us? And fear could stand for anything. Stress, anxiety, right? Fear or love. This is really where we're at. And so, we all kind of know this cognitively.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: My integral theory, integral, meaning everything.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Is about taking what we know up here in the mind, in the cognitive area, and actually bringing it down into the body, into the behaviors, into the actions, into the lived embodiment of what we believe.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And so that's the course, the initiation called Be All In, and that's a group work that I do.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that, I love that. And people can find Awaken Your Spidey Senses on your website, and it's a…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: MichelinGreenreen.com.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Okay. And it's a free offering, and it's… there's one recording where I go over all of the senses, and then I have an individual recording for each of the senses. So you can actually take it as a 15-day practice.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, that's very great.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I did want to ask you, when a woman learns to trust her body's innate intelligence instead of fighting it, what becomes possible, both in parenting and how she leads?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Hmm.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Yeah.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I think… When a woman trusts her body innately, and the wisdom that is Guiding her from within?
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: These are the world bringers.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: These are the women who are birthing a new world.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Because we all… our hearts know it to be true, that a new Earth is possible, a new paradigm is possible, we're all sensing it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: New World Order.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Yes, sir.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We're all sensing it.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We're not quite sure how to get there. We like to talk about it, or maybe we like to complain about the old world order, but it's like, wait a second, we actually have path forward.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: We have actions and behaviors and ways of being that are going to bring us forward. So when a woman is trusting her body innately, she becomes the most powerful
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Person she can be.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I often say to my… many of my… many of my clients, I've… I've…
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: In some sort of way, they have said this to me.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: I don't really know what you do, I just know I need it.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: And I'm like, that's perfect.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Because if you already knew what I'm talking about, you would probably understand it, but there's this sense of, like, there's something more. I can feel it, I know it. It's within me, it's within all of us, so how do we bring that out? And that's the work that I do.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's so beautiful, and it's so needed right now, and I really am grateful that you're…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you're out there doing this very necessary work. So, thank you so much for joining us today, Michelin, and sharing your wisdom.
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::Micheline Green - Leadership Parenting: Yeah, thank you, Jill, appreciate you very much.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can learn more about Michelin and get the guide to Awaken Your Spidey Senses by visiting MichelinGreen.com. And I want to thank you all for joining us today. If you're ready to amplify your voice, monetize your mission, and start attracting premium clients, your next step is simple. Head to coachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit. Join us for our next episode as we share what others are doing to
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