What AI Can Never Replace: The Case for Remaining Human
As AI becomes better at writing, creating, answering questions, and even carrying on conversations that feel deeply personal, what becomes more valuable about being human?
In this thought-provoking conversation, Jill Hart sits down with author, storyteller, communication educator, and Emergence Podcast host Alice Hlidkova to explore what AI can imitate—but never truly possess.
They dive into the growing importance of critical thinking, intuition, creativity, spirituality, curiosity, and genuine human connection in a world increasingly shaped by artificial intelligence.
Alice shares why AI’s dependence on context makes our own wisdom and discernment more important than ever, and why outsourcing too much of our thinking and communication could slowly disconnect us from ourselves.
They also explore an intriguing possibility: the more technology pulls us toward the digital world, the stronger our desire may become for real-world experiences, nature, community, meaningful conversation, and human connection. AI itself may ultimately push us toward a deeper return to our humanity.
In this episode, you'll discover:
✨ Why critical thinking becomes more important as AI gets smarter
✨ The role intuition and spirituality play in human decision-making
✨ What happens when AI begins replacing human interaction
✨ Why curiosity matters more than certainty
✨ How technology can disconnect us from our own voice and experience
✨ Why creativity and human expression cannot simply be replicated
✨ How AI could unexpectedly lead us back to nature, community, and one another
The question isn't whether AI will become more capable.
It's whether we'll remember how to remain fully human as it does.
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::Alice: React to you a couple times.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: AI can already write the email, polish the story, generate the idea, and even carry on a conversation that feels surprisingly personal. So as AI gets better at doing the things we once thought made us uniquely human, an uncomfortable question emerges.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What becomes more valuable about being human when intelligence and communication are no longer exclusively ours?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because the answer may not be our ability to think faster, write better, or know more.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It may be something AI can imitate, but can never actually possess. And by the end of this conversation, we're going to uncover what it is.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the You World Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life, health, transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the Coach's Alchemist, on a mission to empower coaches and entrepreneurs to amplify their voice, monetize their mission, and get visible.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Alice is an author, storyteller, communication educator, and host of the Emergence Podcast. Her work explores authentic expression, emotional honesty, and the power of storytelling to help people better understand themselves and connect more deeply with others. Welcome to the show, Alice. It's great to have you back.
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::Alice: Thanks, Jill! Yay, we're back on!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: All right, I'm going to ask you this question again, because I think the answer this time around is going to be slightly different. So, what's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going?
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::Alice: Oh, that's a loaded question, and it's amazing. Well, the one thing that we can all do is practice our critical thinking skills.
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::Alice: Because they… Increasingly difficult to do.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And something that makes us uniquely human.
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::Alice: Absolutely, absolutely. Because still, what's important, what makes us human is memory over digital storage, curiosity over certainty, and silence over stimulation.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I like those. I like those. And… can… Seem like it's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: like you're talking to another person. And with the advent of being able to just, like, hit the record button, the little microphone on most AIs, you can actually just talk to it, and I've had it help me with some really technical things.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Between taking pictures and just talking to it, and have it talk back to me like another human being. So it's easy to misconstrue how it actually functions with talking with another human being.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What do you think about that?
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::Alice: So, the… I've been using ChatGPT since November 2022, the month that it launched, and…
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::Alice: I rem… it's gone… it's actually was a… it's gone a long way. Yet, the one thing where…
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::Alice: are still the one aspect that all of the AI systems are still not good at detecting is context. So if you do not give it context, or you don't write a great prompt, that's why, you've probably heard the term prompt engineering, and if you don't, give enough context.
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::Alice: In the prompt, Then you can get,
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::Alice: different answers. So, for example, if you have a spill in your car, and you ask ChatGPT where is that spill coming from? Is it oil? Is it cooling agent? What is it? Chatgpt will
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::Alice: Think what it…
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::Alice: it'll choose based… it's the averages. It'll choose based on the information that we feed it. So, if you don't give it the context, it may give you the wrong answer. Still…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'll tell you coffee.
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::Alice: It could tell you coffee, and the itch… and my brother and I have this conversation all the time, because he has used ChatGPT for, identifying spills in his cars, and even, to help him guide his electrical, work in his house, and he cut the wrong wire, and he messed up his entire AC
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::Alice: AC and heating system. So, this is where context is important, but if you don't know what you're doing, then you can't give it the context. So, still, what makes us human is our intuition, and intuitively,
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::Alice: We can still make, better decisions, because we have something called spirituality.
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::Alice: And that's something that AI still cannot, understand intuition.
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::Alice: And it cannot read our spirituality, that… or our ancestors that guide us through, you know, through our genome. So this is something that, AI is not spiritual.
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::Alice: And AI is, dependent… to give us the right answer is really dependent on context, and most people don't have the context, and in order to get the context, we need critical thinking skills, which goes back to my first point of the critical thinking skills.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And when you go and ask ChatGPT something, or any AI really, you need to know what's a reasonable, back to your
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: critical thinking skills. You need to know what a reasonable answer might be.
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::Alice: Intuition, and also intuition.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And intuition. You need to know, on a gut level, what the right answer look like.
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::Alice: the likely answer, whether it's right or wrong. Yeah, you have to kind of know what it…
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::Alice: Looks like, and, like, with especially women and mothers in general, you know.
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::Alice: They have such strong intuition that… and wisdom, women have a lot of wisdom, and…
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::Alice: That just… AI doesn't yet have. Now, if you give it a good enough context, and then it also gets to know you, because you have fed it a lot of information, then it's pretty effective. And it might be even better at giving you answers than what you might actually think of.
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::Alice: In your mind.
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::Alice: But then it still goes back to applying critical thinking skills, and that comes from also experience. So, think about it, like, AI doesn't have… it has maybe 3 years of experience interfacing with me.
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::Alice: But I, as a 40-year-old woman, have 40 years of experience. And of course, AI can crunch that in a… in a bite size.
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::Alice: The way that it communicates the information, it can condense it, but still, it's… We're missing that…
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::Alice: spiritual element.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I think when you talk about that spiritual element, I mentioned this before we started recording, but
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: AI is really a conglomeration of all of us. We are building AI. Every conversation we have, every, every time we copy and paste something off of AI out into the general internet.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We're… we're creating… We're creating the being.
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::Alice: is B.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: coming.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: we're creating the becoming of AI, and though it will never be sentient in the way a human is sentient, because it doesn't have those other aspects, the spirituality and the intuition and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the… The everyday interaction in a world that we've created
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And all of us have created different worlds.
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::Alice: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We… we exist in different worlds from each other, even though we're… we could live in the same house, but our experiences are all different, and this is all being…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: integrated into AI, and so AI is coming back at us with
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's programmed to give us what we want to hear first.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It wants us to like it, and it's… it's written into the code.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the creators of AI want us to like AI, and want us to use AI, and want us to
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: buy access to AI. They're selling us something. AI is a product. But we are helping to create that product, so while it will never be sentient, there is going to be an emotional, energetic layer that does start to come through, and it will feel more and more human.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: As… as it matures.
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::Alice: Well, the way I look at it, absolutely, that whole experience between humans and machines is an emotional connection, right?
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::Alice: Because it's an energy… energetic exchange. Money is energy. That's it. It's just an energetic exchange.
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::Alice: This is… so… where…
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::Alice: If we're trying to understand where this is all going, we must go back to first principles, and that is, what does that company like Claude want to create? So, Claude…
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::Alice: And their marketing material is all about, you know, the human experience, and, like, people first, and making humanity a better place. That's not the exact quotation, but I'm just summing it up.
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::Alice: But then… what is actually AI doing is it's creating a commodity out of our intelligence.
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::Alice: So, it's increasingly where we're headed as a society is privatize… monetization of our private lives, data, intelligence, our bodies, and reproduction.
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::Alice: childcare, child raising, child rearing, and if we look at Claude.
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::Alice: if it's monetizing our intelligence, that means that, well, we have to pay for Claude, eventually. Like, we're… or we upgrade and pay, or we would have to pay regardless.
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::Alice: And we will pay Claude to use it, because it's so integrated in every aspect of our life that we will have to rent
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::Alice: our intelligence that we willingly sell to these companies. So we're becoming a technocracy.
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::Alice: or technology-led democracy in the West. And if you understand these first principles, and you understand how to apply critical thinking skills, then…
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::Alice: you're less likely going to be manipulated, because you're able to make better decisions. Now, as a writer, sometimes I can't tell the difference between my reality and when I'm in my story.
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::Alice: Because we have this incredible ability to manipulate ourselves. If we're not conscious, which now we have to kind of talk about consciousness, and so what happens is that
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::Alice: It's… if we don't really pay attention to what we're doing and we're not aware.
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::Alice: then we will do anything that Claude wants us to do.
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::Alice: Willingly.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes. It will go from being a tool that we use to a master, because we allow it to become our master, we allow it to tell us what to do.
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::Alice: We will give up our will.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Which is kind of…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: a terrible thought. I can see it happening, and I can see it being used by nefarious characters and
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Positions of authority over all of us.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: globally.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and…
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::Alice: food.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's not… it's not a pretty thing, because it…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's like social media, and you alluded to this earlier. Social media… really pushed people Into siloing themselves.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To being what… what they… They were told to be or say.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And stifled free expression of, you know, what you were questioning or thinking, and pushed people into right or wrong categories.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I think we're trying as a… as a…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: species, all of us, are trying to get out of that right-rong paradigm and into the curiosity paradigm, where we can hold ideas
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and allow… Anything to be.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: without having to label it as good or bad, or right or wrong. Because that's how you… how new things come about, is if you can look at all of the sides of it, and say, what is…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How is this going to benefit all of us?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Versus, I have to be right about this, otherwise, you know, who I am as a human being ceases to be important. And there are places where you cannot be who you are, because you won't be able to buy food or leave your house.
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::Alice: Absolutely, yeah.
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::Alice: And that's always been, since the existence of humanity, it's just always been a battle between Aesthetics and ethics.
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::Alice: So, those two are always in conflict. Aesthetics could be, you know, how we appear on social media, you know, right and wrong, and using technology tools to, advance our personal agendas or consciousness, even though
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::Alice: yes, AI can help us advance consciousness, but that's not…
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::Alice: that there's a limitation. And ethics, critical thinking, goes under ethics, right?
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::Alice: your duty, your values, that's under ethics. And what I've seen, interestingly, recently,
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::Alice: something that David Orson, a writer that I interviewed, on my podcast, the Emergence Podcast, we talked about, he was in the military, and he wrote a book, and his biggest concern, seconds to midnight, was his book. And his biggest concern is what happens when AI
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::Alice: Actually replaces a human interaction.
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::Alice: So, what that looks like is…
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::Alice: instead of talking to your neighbor and your grandma and your husband, you're just directly communicating with AI, because it's…
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::Alice: easier, because you don't get rejected, you don't have a response, that's negative, got to your point earlier, and it's extremely effective, and it makes communication easier, but life is not supposed… it's not easy. Communication is never easy. It's a skill.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to be.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so…
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::Alice: supposed to be. So you have these young kids that are just, like, going on AI and just saying, well,
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::Alice: this… my worldview is through the eyes, is being developed… their worldview is being developed through ChatGPT, for example, which serves as a mask, or protection, or barrier.
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::Alice: where you can curate the content before you express it. So you're almost removing your soul from yourself, you're removing yourself from yourself.
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::Alice: And that's why there's… there has to be a lot of education around AI, and how it impacts society. The issue is that it's moving so fast that when people realize that
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::Alice: something's going on, like, they can't point. What is… Yeah, like, they can't pinpoint, like, why am I off? And it's because your soul has, like, left your body. I mean, your soul has…
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::Alice: you're so removed from your soul that you… you feel removed as a human being from the hu… you feel removed from the human experience.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My experience really started as a…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: As close to nature, and we're part.
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::Alice: of.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: nature, and we're getting so removed from that. You know, kids don't go outside and play, and make up stories, and read with a book, and words, and for hours.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Reading teaches you to have an imagination, because watching television, it tells you what the images look like. When you read a book, you have to create it yourself.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And we're losing that.
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::Alice: Yes, and, and the… The… the thing is also with,
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::Alice: the… you know, so we're headed this way with AI, and we're losing something, but there's always in spirituality, in the universe, right, we have… the pendulum swings, and there's a polarity. So if there's…
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::Alice: think about it like light and dark. The more light you have, the more darkness you attract. The more dark you have, the more… there has to be balance, the more light, you will attract.
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::Alice: Of course, when you're dark, you would truck more darkness, but at some point in your life, you will get…
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::Alice: The… to see the opposite.
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::Alice: Because this is where we… we create those… that balance. And…
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::Alice: When we look at these experiences, and…
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::Alice: All we have to think is, okay, so if we're headed this way, what's the opposite direction?
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::Alice: So what's, like, the protagonist in the story, right? The… and what's the antagonist?
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::Alice: So we're the protagonists of the show, of our shows, and then the antagonist is the force that opposes
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::Alice: Us, our, or…
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::Alice: the idea that opposes what we're trying to communicate. And that's really the antagonist to AI is people's rebellion and search for connection to nature and
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::Alice: connection to humanity.
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::Alice: Which is an antagonist for AI.
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::Alice: But it's… Polarity.
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::Alice: I'm not too worried about AI.
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::Alice: Do you know what I mean?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: worried about it either, in terms of…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it functioning as a tool, it's the cheapest virtual assistant I've ever had. I just, like, hands down.
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::Alice: Editor.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: saves.
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::Alice: 13.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And editor, and everything else. But…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I can see how easy it is for people to ask it questions and not not…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: have a good enough base of information in themselves, and just accept the answers that AI gives it as being fact. And really, it's not fact.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: All it does is synthesize information available to it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to give it back to you. And I know for a fact that it goes out, and it looks at the internet, and it looks for things that
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: can match that answer, and it doesn't necessarily differentiate between what was AI produced
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because it quotes myself! It comes back with stuff I've written in… in spaces where it doesn't know that that's me.
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::Alice: Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I know where I got that information from.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, we're gonna get into the circular reference problem.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in the not very distant future, because I know a lot of people lean into AI, and es…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Good as you… you can be at making sure that the information that you're putting out there is…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: is accurate, the AI slop stuff… still exists!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the more of that that gets out into the internet, which is where AI is drawing its information from, as well as, you know, people putting information into it in the form of asking it questions and tightening stuff up.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What are your thoughts on that?
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::Alice: Yeah, so there's this, like, feedback loop, right? That's how our brains work. Our brain is a computer, and it's a… we have feedback loops. And when we ask, when we explore curiosity, it's open loop.
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::Alice: Right? And the open loops lead to higher consciousness. Feedback loops, not necessarily.
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::Alice: Well, it's really simple for me. It's… my clients are AI engineers. More and more, I get AI engineers, specifically software engineers, AI engineers, directors, VPs, and engineers. And…
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::Alice: They come to me for communication skills development.
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::Alice: And they are really good at being AI engineers.
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::Alice: But they're not robots, they're humans. So they come back to learning about gestures, nonverbal communication, connection. How do I connect better to people?
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::Alice: So that's what… that's an example of the bipolarity, and the… the polarity, and… Because we still intrinsically seek
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::Alice: ways to connect to our humanity, it just may or may not be conscious, because we don't understand what is missing. And what's missing is usually
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::Alice: our connection to nature, or spirit, or expression of the spirit. And so I think that we're going to be seeking more experiences, the experience economy, reality economy, that's a $2 trillion economy, where we,
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::Alice: We'll have more tribes, like, in-person tribes, so we will become siloed communities, and…
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::Alice: around common interests, like grounding around the campfire and reading, a book. You know, birdwatching. Birdwatching has gone up after COVID, and…
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::Alice: people are already doing digital detox parties, or going to parties without phones, so it almost… AI could almost help humanity.
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::Alice: to force us To the return of our humanity.
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::Alice: So I'm… I'm kind of curious to see where he goes.
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::Alice: I think there's the fatal opposition.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: before… before AI blew onto the scene in 2020s, there was… there were a couple of things happening that had been happening for about 20 years before that.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And they were around consciousness, and how the consciousness expresses itself on the internet.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There was the basket experiment that was done by a university, I can't remember the name of it.
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::Alice: Thank you for all that.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They… it was… it was about, predicting… it was predictive linguistics, and.
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::Alice: It was about?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Predicting what's coming based on what
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: was happening in the… in the ecosphere of the internet.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then, I think that was based off of an experiment that Cliff High had been running. He called it linguistics… he had alter reports, is what he called them. But what he would do is go through, he was a programmer, and he would…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: trying to, like, find a way to manipulate the stock market so he could make a lot of money. But then he ended up discovering Bitcoin, and he knew that Bitcoin was going to be something, like, 20 years ago, when it was, like, pennies.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: a piece. And so, so his premise is that we all
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: know what's coming. We send energy out, and if you can,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: scan it, you can… you can kind of figure, you know, these sorts of things have the propensity to be happening. Like, he caught the sun disease, something that he called the sun disease that would change humanity.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: is the way it came out, and then the coronavirus, that's what COVID was called in the beginning.
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::Alice: Yeah, I remember.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: came out, and it was just like, well, that was a hit.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But, it's just interesting that we…
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::Alice: Well, I mean, even during COVID, we had, like, 20 search engines, and because of COVID, we consolidated to, like, 4 search engines.
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::Alice: And so, like, again, that's…
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::Alice: you know, technocracy, like, technology-led governments, democracy. And it's… it's… we're gonna have these major shifts. It's just… it's… what gets people unsettled, I don't think, is so much… AI is part of it, but what's more unsettling is,
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::Alice: We're moving… of how fast we are moving away from our…
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::Alice: humanity, and like I've mentioned before, the memory over
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::Alice: Digital storage and curiosity over certainty, and silence over stimulation, like, purity, silence, bonding, intimacy, these are…
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::Alice: intrinsically
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::Alice: what makes us human, but we're losing purity, meaning our connection to nature. We're losing intimacy and bonding. So that, is, I think, what scares people more is, like, the consequence of these
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::Alice: Tools is how much we're removing ourselves from ourselves.
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::Alice: And you see this with, like, young kids, especially, that don't… they're disassociative behavioral patterns, where they just, like, disconnect from their body. And the worst… the extreme end of that is suicide, right? Where they just…
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::Alice: They check out. Like, they don't want to be part of this society. So I think, like, AI is just triggering…
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::Alice: that, at a mass scale.
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::Alice: And… and I don't think enough people are talking about the social costs.
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::Alice: For sure.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because we're social beings, and we don't… we don't thrive.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When we're by ourselves.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: At all. I mean, there's lots of studies. Cruel and unusual punishment is to put somebody in isolation.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For months on end, and we don't think anything of it when we're talking about prisons.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But I… To me, you're better off just, you know.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Putting that person out of our misery, then putting them in isolation for months or years, or
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Their lives, and thinking that it's not going to impact their… their minds.
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::Alice: Well, okay, I mean, some people, if you put people in isolation in cities, it's a lot worse than isolation in nature. Like, today, we went on a hike with my mom, and we just ran into an old gentleman living in a barn with cats, and…
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::Alice: We just said, hey, you have a nice property, there were chickens running around, and there were animals, and he says, yeah, you know, my son calls me on the phone, and…
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::Alice: I have a lot going on here, you know, I have mice, I have cats, I have hens, and, people on the road, he talks to strangers, so it's like, he's kind of isolated in our eyes, because he lives kind of in the middle of nowhere, outside of the village, in a barn.
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::Alice: But I… we've seen these people, they're busy, like, working the land, so they don't… they're not completely isolated. I think if we're disconnected from nature and isolated is really, like, the scary piece.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and… Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think that's why the games… the gaming industry is so huge among the young people, because they're creating worlds of their own.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To escape from…
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::Alice: Reality.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: reality, and… Yeah.
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::Alice: Well, it's also rewarding, right? So you have the dopa… so now we have, like, hyperdopamine culture, like, oh…
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::Alice: Just too much dope… it's dopamine culture, and…
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::Alice: you get instant reward. So it's… it's a coping mechanism, and you're able to function in society, but the problem is, like, the reward is the hard work that you have to do to get…
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::Alice: To get an outcome, and…
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::Alice: then you don't need dopamine to feel good about it. But I understand, you know, I understand all the generations, like, they have different struggles, but and the brain just adapts.
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::Alice: Right? That's the beautiful thing about technologically advancing societies, that we've been around how many years? 10 million years? And we're still…
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::Alice: is roaming the Earth. And my brother and I today talked about the world being flat. My brother's an engineer, and he gave me a strong argument around the world being flat, and we never have.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'll leave it flat.
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::Alice: the moon landing, and I'm looking at him like…
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::Alice: I'm with your brother! And he told me, sis, I've been studying for 5 years, and then he said, let me turn off my phone.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I put it in the freezer.
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::Alice: And that's the point about critical thinking skills and, being aware, and then going back to
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::Alice: I think it's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For a long time, let me put it this way. It's only fairly recently in the span of humanity
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That we have been… Under the illusion that the Earth is a sphere spinning through space.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: at 666… Million miles an hour.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When you think about it.
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::Alice: Yet.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It doesn't seem like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And yet the stars stay in where they're supposed to be, and the moon never is impacted by this, it does its thing, and it's just like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well, okay.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the world doesn't… nothing…
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::Alice: That's gonna be another conversation. That's gonna be an interesting podcast. Part three, Jill.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm all about it.
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::Alice: Together notes, and we're gonna have a critical thinking discussion.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Bring your brother.
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::Alice: Oh, yeah, no, he can't talk about me. Kind of works for the government, sorry.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well, even… even better.
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::Alice: We gotta keep.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And we're not gonna tell you which government.
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::Alice: Yeah, I keep it vague. I mean, you know, some people, they gotta collect their benefits, right, when they retire.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I totally hear it, I hear it. Me, it doesn't matter what I think. And it, you know, it doesn't impact anything in the world if Jill Hart thinks the world is a snow globe.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Joe.
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::Alice: Okay, good.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I've told my AI not to argue with me about it, because I get tired of it telling me I'm wrong.
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::Alice: fortunately, it's not argumentative, but I mean, you know, at the end of the day, it is a… to sum it up, it's a wonderful tool. It…
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::Alice: It… it's pretty remarkable that we have access to it. And we still have free will, if we believe that we have free will. And there's other technologies
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::Alice: out there, because magic is technology that you can't yet explain. Storytelling is a technology, or oratory storytelling is a technology. That's what the sages and the people considered that back then.
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::Alice: So, at any stage of human development, we have technologies, and…
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::Alice: it's just really how we perceive the world, right? What our worldview is determines
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::Alice: Our outcome is the thoughts become things.
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::Alice: So we should put better thoughts in our brain.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And share them with other human beings without having to be right, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Does it matter if I'm right or wrong?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It just… it's just an opinion, it's a thought that I can explore.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If we can be like that with everything that we come across.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How much more could we accomplish?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How much better stories could we come up with?
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::Alice: Immediately.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What a world we'd have.
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::Alice: we have to go back to history again, and relearn principles in the Hindu faith, and in Kabbalah, and talk about non-duality and non-attachment, and if we just read about that, I think we're gonna have a better
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::Alice: better start in the morning over coffee. That's what we should be reading. We should be studying non-duality, for example, non-attachment.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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::Alice: Not have the news on, right?
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::Alice: So…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. If it's really important, you'll find out about it. Hopefully it'll be late.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it won't impact you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just be like… Something that happened somewhere else. And maybe it didn't even really happen. Who knows?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you don't hear about it, it could be that it never occurred.
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::Alice: And that the world is still flat.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that the world is fat.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I don't actually… I believe the surface we live on is flat. I believe it's actually a… a spherical…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: concoction. The bottom is kind of shaggy.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the plane that we live on, and I believe there's an ice shelf that holds the water in, and that there is actually something that divides
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The atmosphere that we… Need for breathing and, you know, traveling around by airplane.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and space.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Which may or may not be water.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I do believe that there's interplanetary travel.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's it.
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::Alice: I mean, interstellar economy, right? That's… I had a conversation with Nick Halleck, who's an astronaut, and he talked about the interstellar economy. That's $25 trillion dollar economy. In 4 years, we'll be seeing it in Google.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I…
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::Alice: That's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That tracks into my… my worldview, too, so it's just not like…
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::Alice: I just listen to what… I just listen to what the visionary and, visionaries are saying, and astronauts, they kind of know things.
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::Alice: Kind of will read their books.
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::Alice: listen to their podcast. Astronauts, I mean, you know, they… they… they go… they zoom out, zoom in pretty quick.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So let's return to the question we started with. If AI eventually becomes better than us at writing, information, productivity, and even some forms of conversation, what is the thing it can't…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What is the thing it can imitate but never actually possess, and what should we be doing now to protect it?
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::Alice: And I imitate, but never possess.
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::Alice: Human Intuition. Creativity. Creativity comes from the spirit.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: consciousness. Yes, the great consciousness.
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::Alice: Yeah, the great consciousness. And, you know, when… You can't,
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::Alice: In nature, not one thing is made the same, right? You don't have an exact copy in nature.
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::Alice: You do with the internet, the web… it's a file, a copy of a file, a copy of the file.
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::Alice: Many files copied.
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::Alice: And I can't create another U, so we can't clone ourselves. We can, maybe, the body, but…
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::Alice: Not the spirit, because if you believe that the soul chooses the body, not one soul is the same. Unless you talk about, like.
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::Alice: Twin flame, twin flames, where it's one soul, two bodies?
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::Alice: a soul split in two bodies, one soul in two bodies. So this is why, you know, you can't discount spirituality with the material world. They're in tandem.
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::Alice: So we're just, like… which AI is really the extreme advancement of ego.
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::Alice: just… Eagle, Master Eagle.
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::Alice: But he goes part of the day.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: DNA strand, but it's not the whole thing, so it can't create a being in itself.
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::Alice: And again, the opposite of ego, or what sits on the other end of ego, is soul. So, if we have extreme ego here, we're gonna have extreme soul, or quest for soul, and quest for access to soul, quest to understand the soul. So again, it's gonna be…
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::Alice: So I, I trust that humans are gonna kinda exit that way.
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::Alice: I'm positioning myself for that, even though.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Where are you positioning yourself, Alice?
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::Alice: Can people find you? I come from tech. I went to, like, the number one robotic school in the world, Carnegie Mellon, and I love robots. Like, I was amazed to learn about robotics and AI and… and Bitcoin and all that, so I definitely am… I love that.
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::Alice: But I'm also spiritual, because I come from a family of… of…
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::Alice: teachers and who had access to technology that you couldn't… how do you have access to that at those times in communism? So, I love seeing both worlds, and I'm sort of a translator between the two, an interpreter.
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::Alice: So that's what I read about a lot of these topics in, my… on my substack, Alice Leidkova.
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::Alice: That'substack.com.
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::Alice: We'll talk.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And people can find you in school.
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::Alice: Yes.
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::Alice: Where they… the engineers hang out.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Ask them questions.
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::Alice: And visionaries, too, and you know, just in general.
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::Alice: Folks who are curious.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that's school.com forward slash makeitwithalice7766. I love those numbers.
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::Alice: Thank you, it was much shorter, but I changed the membership plan. That's good, because I wouldn't be able to remember my numbers.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: 7766?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thanks so much for joining me today, Alice. I always have the best time chatting with you.
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::Alice: I do as well.
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::Alice: And I love your podcast.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can learn more about Alice at substack alicelidkova.substack.com, and on school, at school.com forward slash makeitwithalice dash 766 forward slash about, and we'll make sure we put those links in the description below.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you for tuning in with us today. If you're ready to amplify your voice, monetize your mission, and start attracting premium clients, your next step is simple. Head to thecoachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit. Join us for our next episode as we share what others are doing to raise the global frequency. And remember, change begins with you. You have all the power to change the world. Start today and get visible.
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::Alice: Thanks, Jill.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Kinky.
